So, What Is Greta Thunberg Accomplishing?

If JUST those who profess to care, stopped funding these polluting manufacturers and services, nothing more would need to be done. All it would take is for each of those who say they care about climate change, to stop their profligacy. And that profligacy doesn't necessarily come in an F350. One of those does less harm than regular air travel and massive consumption of services (both of which are lifestyle features of the middle class Progressive).

Those who don't care, are obviously not going to 'volunteer'. It's not their thing.

Sure it is. You accused me of doing nothing to help the planet. I've been doing just that for almost 30 years, and that needed saying out loud.

 

If he succeeds in preventing us from solving the problem (see above), we're screwed.

 

Absolutely incorrect. Government has to act.

I think the consumption of goods is a greater problem than the consumption of services,

Relevance?

We won't solve the problem without some compulsion.

Can we put your virtue signaling to music?

 

You post a lot of cherry picked garbage, a typical lefty trait.

 

Yeah, that's worked out well at Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima, and currently in Ukraine. And, they produce radioactive waste that lasts for thousands of years.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/nuclear-power-and-the-environment.php#:~:text=Nuclear energy produces radioactive waste. A major environmental,dangerous to human health for thousands of years.

 

Let me ask you this, the US has just passed the most sweeping Climate Change legislation in history. Please post the facts about what science says it will do to global temps, lets say by the year 2050. And don't give me any garbage about CO2 levels or ifs and or buts about this and that including "if" other countries do x y or z. Post proof of what global temps are today vs what they will be in 2050 solely due to the recently passed legislation. Prove to me that scientists expect global temps in 2050 to be lower than they are today due to that legislation and that legislation only. I'll be waiting for your facts.

 

You don't get it man. We're screwed anyway. No matter what we do, we're screwed. The very best we can realistically hope to achieve is to reduce the amount of temp increases, giving us more time before we get screwed in the end anyway. The left need to get their heads out of their asses and use their time figuring out how to remove carbon from the atmosphere and learning to deal with rising temperatures instead of making things harder and more expensive for people to live their lives because people are going to naturally be against that. It's called progress. The left claim they are for poor people but absolutely everything they do in the name of the environment disproportionally negatively effects the poor all around the world.

And, assuming that human activity is responsible for it all just merely because humans are here and have needs, we're never going to get anywhere as long as the world's population grows exponentially. Every time you do something to help the environment it will be negated by more people in a never ending stalemate. The only real solution to Climate Change caused by human activity is to have less humans and I don't mean cutting down on population growth, I mean actually having less humans.

And, while you guys are spending all your time and energy fighting a losing battle, the planet moves closer and closer to a nuclear WWIII. That's going to get us way before the environment does.

 

Your "solution" is to allow the problem to get worse so the motivation to solve the problem is greater.

Here's an analogy for you. You are in a sinking boat, Bob puts his finger in the hole but it's still leaking just less heavily. Bob's hope is that by doing so there is more time to get to repairs before the boat sinks. Bob isn't the one to make the repairs but he might save enough time to get to someone who can.

I can't solve global warming but I can do my part to give those who might be able to the chance to do so.

 

I don't think you even read my quote you edited and posted. I have never said we should do nothing. Never. But, the left do need to get their heads out of their asses and realize that no matter what we do, temps will still increase and they need to look at things in a realistic sense instead of with their heads up their asses. It is virtually impossible to change the world's behavior to the point temps will actually decrease. It's simply not going to happen. To believe so is pure fantasy.

Instead of making everyone's lives more miserable and forcing everyone to pay higher prices for everything, which hurts the poorest the most, we need to spend our money and our time with carbon removal technology and infrastructure to accommodate the increasing temperatures instead of fighting a fool's war that is unwinnable. You're whole line about my solution is completely untrue because we will NEVER be able to solve the problem. How many times have we been told that we are already beyond the point? Many of those have come and gone and yet the left are still pushing to solve the unsolvable problem even as they have said many times that we are already past the point.

 

No, the evidence is perfectly valid.

No, that is just a bald falsehood. At the end of the Younger Dryas, temperature increased much faster than it has in the last century:

https://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/alley20001.gif

 

Whenever anyone talks about "saving the planet," you know they are spewing BS.

 

He cut red tape -- to fashion it into Band-Aids to cover up problems that cannot be healed with Band-Aids.

 

Yup. All of these big mouths pollute every day. They buy cars, they buy gas, they travel by plane, they buy plastics of all kinds, etc etc.

 

That much more accurately describes absurd anti-fossil-fuel histrionics like Greta's.

 

Are you saying some other form of energy is perfectly safe? Do you know how many people are killed falling from roofs during solar panel installation?

But the actual risk to human health from such waste is minimal compared to the risk from, e.g., the depleted uranium munitions used in Iraq.

 

What problems would that be?

 

Just seems nuclear is like a disaster waiting to happen. Oh, wait a minute, it already has happened several times.

 

They have to get to those meetings, or the planet is doomed

 

A flat lie.

I support school vouchers, medical vouchers, the Keystone pipeline, stopping illegal immigration dead in its tracks by going after employers hiring illegals... obviously not a leftwinger.

You? An independent? You're a rightwing extremist, not an independent.

 

Old style reactors. Time to update your knowledge.

 

How about you? Is there plastic in your computer equipment? Time to virtue signal by selling it.

 

LOL. I think I told you before, you're so far left you think everyone on the right is a right wing extremist.

 

I'm not the one being a hypocrite about Climate Change.

 

Greta is a media creation. She's infotainment—assuming one is entertained (and informed ) by teenagers lecturing on science, economics and other important matters.

Frankly, I'm not wanting to see or hear from Al Gore, Bernie Sanders or Greta about global warming, nor for that matter am I interested in Trump's BS about the "climate change hoax."

 

So, support for school vouchers, medical vouchers, the Keystone pipeline, and stopping illegal immigration is "far left...?"