So, where should we put the Bible in the Library?

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    And where do you propose that it is listed in Pauls writings where Paul stated that he never met Jesus?

    Then with that stated degree of uncertainty regarding Socrates, it can be assumed that Socrates was as much a Myth as some would say about Jesus.

    Nothing odd except your way of twisting what you think I am asking you to PROVE. Not disprove.

    Let me restate it. Prove the existence of Socrates.
     
  2. krunkskimo

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    Well from his writings he said a resurrected Jesus spoke to him. Nowhere does he say he ever met him. do you have an account that says otherwise?

    And why do you keep asking me to prove Socrates when i could care less if he existed or not?
     
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    Pay attention to this subtle change to your writing emphasized above:
    "Nowhere does he say he never met him."

    Now it is you that made the positive claim that Paul never met Jesus. Therefore, the onus is upon you. You must defend your statement. You have the obligation to defend your statement of alleged fact.

    As to Socrates and my requirement that you prove that Socrates was a real man: Because Socrates allegedly had such a strong influence upon the current system of logic that is being used by some on this forum. So, if it cannot be proven that Socrates was a real man, but merely a myth, then all of the system of logic is placed under scrutiny due to the impact that this mythical being had upon the development of the logic system.
     
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    Doesn’t the story go Paul was on the road from Jerusalem headed to Damascus when he first herd Jesus voice and was struck blind? Didnt he ask hey dude, whos voice is in my head? Obviously if he met jesus before he would recogonize his voice. If he ever met him he misrepresented it in his writings. Since his conversion is based on Jesus speaking to him after he was dead, blinding him, and then curing it, not telling us he actually met him while alive (and not arresting him) is a pretty big thing to omit. I beleive thats whats called a lie by omission

    Whether Socrates is real or not doesn’t put the system of logic or lessons taught by Plato’s dialogue with Socrates into jeopardy or under some kind of additional scrutiny. The Logic stands on its own.

    Shouldnt then The Boy Who Cried Wolf come under more scrutiny for the same reason you claim?
     
  5. Margot

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    Why not under Religious Studies or Philosophy?



     

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