So why is President Trump and the right so against voting my mail?

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  1. Kranes56

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    If you were someone in a disadvantaged group, would you be able to still vote?
     
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    Ultimately the matter is of no importance. The popular vote makes absolutely no difference in the election of president of the united states. The winner will be chosen by the electoral college and only the electoral college. The electoral vote is independent of the popular vote, and truly is the only vote that matters.

    Those who are complaining about not being able to vote in the election, are those who fail to understand that ultimately their vote is as meaningless as they themselves are in this particular race.
     
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    Some people refuse to understand this.
    Pity them, and move on.
     
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    You seriously lost me here. Can you elaborate?
     
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    To trigger the opposition.
     
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    Same as every other citizen who mails in a ballot.
     
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    I figured you to have more smarts than that.
     
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    Sorry to keep referring you to links, but I'm continuing my conversation with my neighbor Kode. The best way to respond to your reply to me is to refer you to what I just finished writing to him.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...d-vote-by-mail.570479/page-10#post-1071586204
     
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    We don't know because the entire country is not doing it. But you already know that don't you not?
    We do know ballot harvesting flipped Orange County Ca. Very odd.
     
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    Shortly after we went to vote by mail in Colorado we started the shift from Red to Blue, my son was enrolled at CSU my friends son at CU, mail in ballots were sent to all the students apparently even those that had not received in state residency status. The social justice warriors from boulder would canvas the campus and tell students that if they are not going to vote or if they were not actually eligible they had to turn in their blank ballots, and they would be happy to collect them, I also know this happened at Colorado College in Pueblo. Now this ballot harvesting is the norm now for democrats, I am sure of course they delivered all of these blank ballots back to the state, there is no way at all they showed up filled out is there? If you watch the returns in Colorado the last polling to report numbers is always Boulder, and they always manage to push their candidates over the top at the last second. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

    Mail in ballots are a cheaters dream for democrats. I wish now that we had never done it in Colorado,, we may have turned blue anyway but the mail in assured it via fraud.

    This is my opinion and since I have never been wrong about anything ever in my life, you can bank on the above being true.
     
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    You asked me to call for the operation of someone elses mind. I am smart enough not to answer for others, so I mocked your silly question instead.
     
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    So after 125 replies, for the most part, the biggest "argument" against voting by mail is that the "Democrats cheat" and and it is too susceptible to fraud. None of these "arguments" offered any proof other than "Democrats cheat" and it is too susceptible to fraud. Ironically, those are Trump's major "arguments," and proof, although he himself votes by mail

    Lets try it again, currently five states vote by mail including Utah, and the last Democrat running for President who won Utah was Lyndon Johnson. Currently, there doesn't exist any verification that voting by mail has led to corruption, of course there are a couple of narratives, but the overwhelming consensus based on studies is that it is extremely rare and never consequential.

    And most importantly, we are living in a different time, and if current conditions do prevail up until next November, hopefully not, the virus is going to affect election turnout, this week in Wisconsin proved that fact. We have over six months to prepare and work on potential problems, so the question remains, why is Trump and the GOP so adamantly against it?
     
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    No a citation is not needed. It's common sense.
     
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    That you cannot prove.

    Got it.
     
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    Oh it's the Guardian, that UK liberal rag.

    For those who did not follow BREXIT last year. The Guardian had as much coverage to defeat Trump as they did BREXIT, at the height of the BREXIT debate in the UK. They were collecting donations online on their website under the pretense of how important it was to defeat Trump in 2020. And it was boldly across the bottom 20% of their website. One would think a UK paper would be a bit more concerned about BREXIT as it was the biggest issue is UK politics in decades. But nope, Trump was equally important!
     
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    Don't need to prove it because it's not an issue that has as chance of occurring. But common sense dictates 75,000,000 ballots in envelopes could be a slight integrity issue. People can get off their duff and vote in Nov.

    Nancy "Fail" Pelosi is not getting her way. Again.

    Dems are sure using every arrow in the quiver to try and take out Trump. Getting desperate!
     
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    If by "every arrow in their quiver" means getting the greatest amount of registered voters to actually vote, I would have to admit that I agree with you.

    How come Trump can vote by mail but I shouldn't be able to?

    And, what's is so wrong in our eyes with a National Voting Holiday once every four years?
     
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    Who mentioned a national voting holiday? If we are having one of those why do we need mass voting by mail? A day off of work to lick a stamp?

    We can manager to get out and vote once every four years, if it's inconvenient then to damn bad. A much greater demand was met to allow us the opportunity to do so.

    Look at the long list of failures of the left too unseat Trump after the won the election "he had no chance" to win. So much fail on the left when it comes to Trump, and more to come in Nov.
     
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    Two words

    Voter Fraud
     
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    Irrelevant, the fact remains Trump and the GOP are vehemently against even preparing for a possible mail in voting in November, and the question remains why
     
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    Lets try it again, currently five states vote by mail including Utah, and the last Democrat running for President who won Utah was Lyndon Johnson. Currently, there doesn't exist any verification that voting by mail has led to corruption, of course there are a couple of narratives, but the overwhelming consensus based on studies is that it is extremely rare and never consequential.

    And most importantly, we are living in a different time, and if current conditions do prevail up until next November, hopefully not, the virus is going to affect election turnout, this week in Wisconsin proved that fact. We have over six months to prepare and work on potential problems, so the question remains, why is Trump and the GOP so adamantly against it?
     
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    Cause there is zero need to.

    Why is Nancy so set on it? Cause she knows it can be manipulated to her and the DNC's advantage. It's not because she cares about the American people, she showed that when she played personal political games with the stimulus package.

    And no it's not irrelevant. The Guardian published hit pieces on Trump pure and simple. Anybody posting them as credible journalism will get called out. :)
     
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    They require a signature in the least.. the legislation Pelosi wants doesnt even require that.
     
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    "if current conditions do prevail up until next November"

    Let that sink in folks.....until November….over 6 months away.....people are trying to sell the lunatic ideal that this last for six more months. No doubt the same people who predicted dead bodies piled in the street by now as the number of deaths increased exponentially daily.

    Comical and pathetic at the same time.

    Tell you what, as sure as I breath I'll use my vote to cast for Joe B in your place so you can stay home in Nov if this is still going on.
     

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