So why is President Trump and the right so against voting my mail?

The DP doesn't like the secret ballot because the DP likes to rig elections.
They even rig their own primaries and nomination process.

 

I bet Bernie would agree!

If the DNC was my buddy and I went to the horse track with him, I would bet on whatever horse he did not bet on. Their most recent entries sucked, that nag Hilary and the old plow horse Joe were horrible choices to run for POTUS.

 

Just looking for a compromise that doesn't get conservative panties in a bunch.

 

Agree 100%, which is why I have noted that the DNC still has eight toes to shoot off.

 

I'm open to the ideal. Replace President Day with it.

Push a strong historical narrative of the price we paid to have the right to vote that day. Celebrate the fact that although we strongly disagree with each other politically for one day we can appreciate the fact that we always have peaceful elections and turnovers of power.

I'm in!

 

Why do you premise it on just "mass" voting fraud?

 

Doesn't have to be on a mass scale, we have local elections that hinge on single digits.

 

There is no evidence of hardships to get proper ID's that are necessary for everyday routine life.

 

Remember Florida's in 2000 and then again in 2016? Imagine that on a national scale.

 

There's no photo on it. Why is the Left so against using a photo ID when there is no evidence they hamper voter turnout?

U.N. Poll Watchers Baffled U.S. Doesn't Require I.D. to Vote
"It's an incredible system," said Nuri K. Elabbar, who traveled to the United States along with election officials from more than 60 countries to observe today's presidential elections as part of a program run by the International Foundation for Electoral Systems (IFES). Your humble Cable guy visited polling places with some of the international officials this morning. Most of them agreed that in their countries, such an open voting system simply would not work.

The most often noted difference between American elections among the visitors was that in most U.S. states, voters need no identification. Voters can also vote by mail, sometimes online, and there's often no way to know if one person has voted several times under different names, unlike in some Arab countries, where voters ink their fingers when casting their ballots.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katie...-baffled-us-doesnt-require-id-to-vote-n695241

 

I was willing to give up Columbus Day, but, as a compromise, I'll give you President's Day.

Deal?

 

Well, there is, you just don't accept it as "evidence".

How about a National Voter ID be free?

When you start charging for an ID used to vote you are, essentially, charging a poll tax.

I bet if we had to buy roughly 200 million Voter ID Cards, we could get the price down to pennies per card.

Chump change.

 

What is the current cost involved with an individual obtaining documented evidence and identificiation to show they are indeed a citizen of the united states?

 

Depends on what documentation one needs to acquire.

In California a birth certificate will run you around $25, and a state ID card is $30.

Not a lot, I concede. But for someone on the lower end of the income ladder it could prove challenging.

 

Was not Mr. Mickey Mouse voting Democrat in Florida in 2000?

 

Free ID's are available in CA and it's your personal responsibility to have a valid birth certificate.

Do you think people should be able to register to vote without providing identification and proof of where they live?

 

States offer free photo IDs that can be used to vote and no it is not a poll tax and poll taxes had exceptions for the poor. A proper ID is a necessity of life and is required for LOTS of things in life.

 

Explain. What is it about the Republican base that makes them have such greater abilities than the Democrat base? This is a mystery to me. Are you saying most Democrats live under a bridge or something?

 

Only for people aged 62 or older. A valid BC is still going to cost you.

Doesn't matter what I think.

 

Trump supporters will be at the polls in November even if masks & distancing is still needed.

Biden supporters will show up if it is sunny or they have nothing better to do. They just are not excited by the dementia patient

 

Republicans core works, pay taxes and donate more to charity.

Some democrats live under a bridge, but the majority just want handouts/entitlements.

The democratic core .....
Wellfare recipients
Union workers who are on unemployment 6 months of the year.
Illegals....
College students who have not yet paid taxes

 

Rawls theory of justice. Basically if you were at random assigned to a group of people, would you still be able to vote?

Poor old man Harry Thomson is having trouble getting an ID. See his records have him as Thomson, but social security has it as Tomson. So he can't get a photo ID because of it.
https://www.npr.org/2012/02/01/146204308/why-millions-of-americans-have-no-government-id

Access to vehicles mostly. It's pretty hard to get around when you don't have access to a car. Wealth to pay for things like getting a permit, and readily available access to institutions that can provide them with those ids.

 

Well that's his own fault and his responsibility to correct his records, we don't have to endanger our elections because this one man is not responsible for himself.

 

And reduced fee by income $9, spare me. You should already have a valid BC, you needed one to enroll in school and if not file an affidavit with the clerk with other ID.

For the sake of this conversation and what you are proposing it does.

Do you think people should be able to register to vote without providing identification and proof of where they live?

 

But what if that was your fault? Should you not be allowed to vote? Now I'm going to go on another stretch and wonder why does citizenship and by extension the right to vote have to be determined by the nation? The nation can be thought of as the communication between the state and society. For example, government documentation. If that's the case, then which nation is given precedence to determine the rules of voting?