So why single out Israel?

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "WHY SINGLE OUT ISRAEL?"

    With the exception of a few well informed & fair-minded souls, this thread seems to have become quite a playground for:

    - Innocent U.S. victims of a Zionist dominated Major Media [1] who have never set foot in the Mid East except for Israeli Government guided tours

    - Those Americans who are accurately regarded as "Suckers" by most Israelis [2]

    - Israel's 50,000+ trained, scripted and Israeli Government Supported, full time Hasbara Hirelings [3], [4]

    And, finally those Jews & non Jews who have the guts & integrity to oppose the world's most heavily funded genocidal State, International Outlaw Regime & Regional / Global threat.


    It would take pages to outline the Crimes & Atrocities of an entity established by Foreign Zionist Terrorist Gangs & imposed on an existing Palestinian Community via Colonial, foreign funded Mass Murder, land theft & more recently, Ethnic Cleansing & forced sterilization via insidious Genotoxic, D.U., N.D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs that are designed & intended to not only exterminate Palestine's native population but to ensure birth deaths & untreatable, terminal disorders in future generations of Palestine's Occupied Population.

    “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”
    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748
    EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....
    .......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED


    Israel's paid network of trained Hasbara Hirelings would have you believe that Levantine history began when "7 Arab Armies" attacked "poor, little Israel" in 1948.

    Levantine history, however, goes back way before the invasion of Foreign Zionist Terrorist Gangs (Irgun, Stern Gang & the SS trained Haganah[5] who, with the machinations of the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland [6], forcibly confiscated a significant part of Palestine against the will of the very people who were promised their own land for fighting the Turks for the British:

    “The McMahon Agreement”
    http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mcmahon.htm

    EXCERPT “The McMahon-Hussein Agreement of October 1915 was accepted by Palestinians as a promise by the British that after World War One, land previously held by the Turks would be returned to the Arab nationals who lived in that land."CONTINUED

    Briefly put, while the Arabs were fulfilling their agreement with their blood & toil, Rothschild & his Zionist Federation of Great Britain successfully schemed the abrogation of the McMahone promise via the Balfour Declaration of 1917, two years after The McMahon-Hussein Agreement of October 1915.

    It is additionally noteworthy that of the 38 signatories of Israel's later Declaration of Independence, only ONE was from the Region. The rest were among the Foreign Zionist invaders. The point is that there were very few Jews in Palestine until very recently.

    This background information is salient to today's question of "Why Single out Israel" in that "Israel" is simply an artificially, Foreign created entity imposed on an already Occupied population who had resided in Palestine since the Canaanites.

    Perhaps the most compelling reason to "Single Out Israel" is to save Peace seeking Israelis & Palestine's native non Jews from a ruthless Government running history's most heavily foreign funded, genocidal, Rogue WMD & nuclear arsenal.

    While America's Zionist lobbies drove the US to War with Iraq [7] partially on the pretext of its government's deployment of Chemical weapons on innocent civilians, the Netanyahu Regime has been deploying far deadlier, nefarious & genocidal ordinance on Palestine's captive, native population for years.

    America's $ Trillions in funding Netanyahu's / Israel's reckless & genocidal deployment of Genotoxic, D.U., N.D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs[8], illegal Settlements, endless War Crimes etc makes a mockery of all lives lost through America's claimed "War on Terror" by America's unconditional support of the world's most heavily funded, Terrorist, Genocidal Regime on the face of the earth.


    The American Government has "Singled out Israel" for far too long by blindly funding its every atrocity, act of aggression, War Crime & now, blatant Genocide via Genotoxic, D.U., N.D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs.

    In addition to relentless holocaust extortion from Germany & Global pity-mongering, what has been the result:

    “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html


    It's long past time to "Single out Israel" by defunding its Genocide, criminal Expansionism, Regional destabilizing & coming to the aid of humanitarian Israelis & Palestinian survivors of Zionist Ethnic Cleansers & land thieves who have endured the brutality of pampered Zionist Thugs for decades.

    An even handed Mid East Policy is long overdue & would be far more fruitful unless the US is to waste additional $ Trillions & countless, innocent lives throughout the Region in an endless & fraudulent "War on Terror" (aka Zionist orchestrated war on Regional Islam i.e. Oded Yinon Plan)*




    (*) Please avoid the Zionist / Hasbara infected Wikipedia:

    “Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups”
    http://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2010/08/wikipedia-editing-courses-launched-by.html
    EXCERPT “Two Israeli groups have set up 'Zionist editing' courses with aims to alter perceptions about Israel.
    Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site.”CONTINUED


    [1] “Declassified Senate investigation files reveal clandestine Israeli PR campaign in America”
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/PrintArticle.php?articleId=20687
    EXCERPT: "It is frightening how easily some in the American news media surrendered to a foreign public relations campaign.
    According to Grant F. Smith, director of IRmep, “It is frightening how easily some in the American news media surrendered to a foreign public relations campaign that spent the 2010 equivalent of $36 million over two years. Time has proven most of the planted content to be misleading, if not dangerous.(*) These historical documents hold many important lessons for Americans who have long needed, but rarely received, straight reporting on key Middle East issues.”CONTINUED



    [2] “What Do Israelis Think About Americans? Start With Disdain.”
    http://forward.com/articles/216074/...out-americans-start-with/?p=all#ixzz3U6lIMhyL
    EXCERPT “Jerusalem — Though Israel is a famously fractious society, Israelis tend to agree on one thing: Their strongest supporters are an inherently dupable people.
    “Most Israelis think Americans are pro-Israel and we can sell them anything, especially mud from the Dead Sea,”
    “Or — just regular mud with a ‘Dead Sea’ sticker on it.”."CONTINUED



    [3] “Israel’s Information Ops”
    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/israels-information-ops/
    EXCERPT “ But the American public in particular should be aware of the extraordinary efforts that Israel and its supporters make to present a crafted and coordinated image through the media, particularly by way of the Internet.
    When an intelligence organization seeks to influence opinion by creating and deliberately circulating false information, it is referred to as a “disinformation operation.”
    But Israel has refined the art ...."CONTINUED



    [4] “Prime Minister's Office recruiting students to wage online hasbara battles”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/israel/.premium-1.541142
    EXCERPT “The Prime Minister's Office is planning to form, in collaboration with the National Union of Israeli Students, "covert units" within Israel's seven universities that will engage in online public diplomacy (hasbara).(*)“CONTINUED



    [5] “Nazis SS Funded Nascent Israeli Army”
    http://www.henrymakow.com/israeli_haganah.html



    [6]“Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Federation_of_Great_Britain_and_Ireland
    EXCERPT "The Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland, also known as the British Zionist Federation or simply the Zionist Federation (ZF), was established in 1899 to campaign for a permanent homeland for the Jewish people.
    The Zionist Federation is an umbrella organisation for the Zionist movement in the United Kingdom, representing more than 120 organisations, and over 50,000 affiliated members.
    In 1917, the British Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour communicated the Balfour Declaration to the leader of United Kingdom's Jewish community Lord Rothschild for transmission to the Zionist Federation."CONTINUED



    [7] “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03


    [8] “Gaza sees more newborns of malformation”
    http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12737744.htm


    [8] “Banned Weapons Used In Israel-Palestine Conflict?”
    http://www.defenseworld.net/news/10...ed_In_Israel_Palestine_Conflict_#.VeSR5s02UzY

    EXCERPT “As the conflict between the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) and Palestinian groups intensifies, the unevenly matched sides continue to assault each other with a wide array of weapons including Israel’s use of internationally banned weapons, such as DIME (Dense Inert Metal Explosive), according to various media reports.

    In addition, the 1980 convention on chemical weapons prohibits the use of weapons which “cause superfluous injury or excessive suffering.” Israel has signed that convention. The convention also prohibits the use of any weapon which aims to injure by placing fragments in the human body that escape detection.
    A DIME bomb usually contains a mixture of explosive material, cobalt, nickel, iron and tungsten alloy and leaves almost no metallic fragments in the human body.
    The IDF justifies its pounding of civilian targets including hospitals, schools and UN shelters by claiming that Hamas fighters are using civilians as human shields.”CONTINUED
     
  2. Grau

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    Of course you avoid realities that make resistance the only option for Palestine's native residents:

    1. As far back as 1948, the Zionists made clear their plan to "Ethnically Cleanse" Palestine; i.e. Plan Dalet

    "ISRAEL'S PLAN DALET"; THE GREEN LIGHT FOR ZIONISM'S ETHNIC CLEANSING OF PALESTINE"
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/israels...estine/5326140
    EXCERPT “On that day in 1948, two months before Israel’s unilateral declaration of independence in defiance of the will of the organized international community as it then was at the UN, Zionism’s in-Palestine political and military leaders met in Tel Aviv to formally adopt PLAN DALET, the blueprint with operational military orders for the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.”CONTINUED


    2. After working as a Medic in a Palestinian Refugee Camp, I spoke with several Nakba Survivors. I see no reason why their accounts should not be just as valid as those of holocaust survivors if not more so because their lack of profit / "reparation" motive


    3. Israeli Government officials have made clear their same Ethnic Cleansing sentiments as Plan Dalet:

    “Op-Ed: Israeli Deputy Speaker calls for ethnic cleansing of Gaza”

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/...leansing-of-gaza/article/392650#ixzz3rO9NImd7
    EXCERPT “Sadly, Feiglin isn't the only prominent Israeli official to advocate accelerating the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Earlier this month, far-right Knesset member Ayelet Shaked posted a bloodthirsty call for the extermination of the Palestinian people, "including its elderly women, its cities and its villages" (shades of '48 again), on her Facebook wall. She got more than 5,000 "likes."CONTINUED


    AND

    “They Have To Die”: Israeli Politician’s Comments Calling For Killing of Mothers of Palestinians Trigger International(*)Backlash”
    http://jonathanturley.org/2014/07/1...-palestinians-trigger-international-backlash/


    4. Netanyahu has finally admitted what honest & informed Mid East followers have long known for a fact:

    The Israeli Government has never had either a desire or motive to make peace. they get their US $ Trillions [1] no matter what

    “Israel's PM Netanyahu: No Palestinian state on my watch”
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/16/middleeast/israel-netanyahu-palestinian-state/


    5. A large segment of Israeli society supports Ethnic Cleansing

    “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html


    6. Israel's illegal Settlements projects are additional proof that the Israeli's have ot been nor will ever be interested in peaceful co-existence:

    “Israel Does Not Want Peace”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-peace-conference/1.601112
    EXCERPT “ “Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.
    But the truth is... Israel never really wanted peace. Israel has never, not for a minute, treated the Palestinians as human beings with equal rights. It has never viewed their distress as understandable human and national distress.
    The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise."CONTINUED


    7. Perhaps the most compelling indicator that most Israelis want all Palestinians dead or gone is the widespread deployment of Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs that kill not only existing natives of Palestine but sterilize & ensure the deaths of unborn children:

    “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”
    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748
    EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....
    .......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED



    No amount of Hasbara rhetoric will convince any informed person that your Genocidal Zionist colony "wants peace"



    .
    So much for the "Lessons of the holocaust".

    You might as well crate up those grisly "Holocaust®" Theme Parks & dump them into the sea for all you've learned from them.


    [1] “The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion”
    http://www.wrmea.org/2003-june/the-costs-to-american-taxpayers-of-the-israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
     
  3. DrewBedson

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    You just can't help yourself can you Grau. Please supply the factual the proof that the SS provided the bulk of the training to the Hagana.

    And wondering, any luck on digging up more then one guy who was an SS member and in the IDF to support this other turd of yours;

    ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members""

    So many huh ........:roflol:
     
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    Peace is good, war is bad.

    No they didn't. They massacred Jews in '29.

    They were occupants of the British Mandate when the bulk of the Jews arrived. If you want to say somebody was invaded it was the poor Brisith.

    May 15 the Arab League declared it on Israel. I don't recall Israel making a declaration of war at any time so please provided the time and method of this formal declaration.

    The only examples to any nation making peace with Israel are Jordan and Egypt both of which gained much so, what on earth are you basing this contention on?

    Yes, terrorism has gained them so much over the past seventy odd years.
     
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    Only a person with an ax to grind can twist and turn, a readily available explanation against Israel.... Here is Plan Dalet in full detail... Please take the time to explain it to yourself against the boondoggle above.


    Israeli War of Independence:
    Plan Dalet

    (March 10, 1948)

    War of Independence: Table of Contents | Background & Overview | War Maps

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    1. Introduction

    (a) The objective of this plan is to gain control of the areas of the Hebrew state and defend its borders. It also aims at gaining control of the areas of Jewish settlement and concentration which are located outside the borders [of the Hebrew state] against regular, semi-regular, and small forces operating from bases outside or inside the state.

    (b) This plan is based on three previous plans:

    1. Plan B, September 1945.

    2. The May 1946 Plan.1

    3. Yehoshua Plan, 1948.2

    (c) Since these plans were designed to deal with the situation inside the country (the first two plans deal with the first phase of incidents, while the third plan deals with the possibility of invasion by regular armies from the neighboring countries), the aim of Plan D is to fill the gaps in the previous three plans and to make them more suitable for the situation expected to obtain at the end of British rule in the country.

    2. Basic Assumptions

    This plan is based on the following basic assumptions:

    (a) The Enemy

    1. Expected composition of forces:

    The semi-regular forces of the Liberation Army affiliated with the Arab League, which operate from already occupied bases or bases to be occupied in the future.

    The regular forces of neighboring countries, which will launch an invasion across the borders, or will operate from bases inside the country (the Arab Legion ).3

    Small local forces which operate, or will operate, from bases inside the country and within the borders of the Hebrew state.

    All three forces will be activated at the same time in accordance with a joint operational plan, and will sometimes engage in tactical coordination.

    2. Actual operations expected from the enemy' .

    Isolation and, if possible, occupation of the eastern Galilee, western Galilee, and the Negev.

    Infiltration into the heart of the area of Sharon4 and Emek Hefer'. in the direction of Qalqiliyyah-Herzliya and Tulkarm-Netanya, roughly.

    Isolation of the three major cities (especially Tel Aviv).5

    Disruption of food supply lines and other vital services such as water, electricity, etc.

    3. Expected tactical methods:

    Attacks by the regular and semi-regular forces on settlements, using heavy infantry weapons, as well as field artillery, armored vehicles, and the air force.

    Air strikes against centers within our cities (especially Tel Aviv)

    Harassment operations carried out by small forces against transportation arteries and settlements to give the operations mentioned above direct or tactical support. These forces will also carry out sabotage operations against vital economic facilities and terrorist raids within cities.

    (b) The Authorities

    This plan rests on the general assumption that during its implementation, the forces of the [British] authorities will not be present in the country.

    In the event that British forces continue to control certain bases and areas, the plan must be modified to deal with this situation in these areas. Additional instructions will be issued in this regard.

    (c) International Forces

    This plan rests on the assumption that there will be no international forces stationed in the country which are capable of effective action,

    ( d) Operational Objectives

    1. Self-defense against invasion by regular or semi-regular forces. This will be achieved by the following:

    A fixed defensive system to preserve our settlements, vital economic projects, and property, which will enable us to provide governmental services within the borders of the state (based on defending the regions of the state on the one hand. and on blocking the main access routes from enemy territory to the territory of the state. on the other).

    Launching pre-planned counter-attacks on enemy bases and supply lines in the heart of his territory. whether within the borders of the country [Palestine] or in neighboring countries.

    2. Ensuring freedom of military and economic activity within the borders of the [Hebrew] state and in Jewish settlements outside its borders by occupying and controlling important high-ground positions on a number of transportation arteries.

    3. Preventing the enemy from using frontline positions within his territory which can easily be used for launching attacks. This will be effected by occupying and controlling them.

    4. Applying economic pressure on the enemy by besieging some of his cities in order to force him to abandon some of his activities in certain areas of the country.

    5. Restricting the capability of the enemy by carrying out limited operations: occupation and control of certain of his bases in rural and urban areas within the borders of the state.

    6. Controlling government services and property within the borders of the state and ensuring the supply of essential public services in an effective manner.

    3. Assignment of Duties

    In view of the operational objectives outlined above, the various armed services are assigned the following duties:

    (1) Strengthening the fixed defensive system designed to defend the zones, and coordinating its deployment on the regional level. In addition, the main enemy access routes to the lands of the state must be blocked through appropriate operations and measures.

    (2) Consolidation of the defensive apparatus.

    (3) Deployment in major cities.

    (4) Control of the main transportation arteries country-wide.

    (5) Encirclement of enemy cities.

    (6) Occupation and control of frontline enemy positions.

    (7) Counterattacks inside and outside the borders of the country.

    (a) The Fixed Defensive System

    1.The fixed defensive system in rural areas depends on two main factors: using protected areas for the purpose of defending the circumference, on the one hand, and blocking main transportation routes used by the enemy, on the other hand.

    2. The security arrangements pertaining to the zones in rural areas, originally designed to repel small enemy forces, must be modified in terms of planning and reinforcement to suit the tactical measures expected to be employed by semi-regular or regular enemy forces. This will be effected according to instructions issued by the operations branch in charge of defense and planning in rural areas.

    3. In addition, if we take into consideration the tactical measures expected to be employed by the enemy, efforts must be made to make a transition from a positional defense to a regional defense, so that the unit of defense is the region and not the zone.

    4, In order to achieve this objective, the following steps must be taken:

    a) Transformation of the regional staff from an administrative staff to a general staff (selection of a location, setting up a communications network, etc.)

    b) Formation of a regional mobile reserve, to be recruited from the forces appointed to the zones, which would reinforce the forces or carry out counterstrikes in the zones within each region according to pre-arranged plans.

    c) Adaptation and incorporation of the plans concerning fortification and opening fire in the zones to those of the region, as far as possible, taking into consideration geographical circumstances and types of weapons used. These plans must also be coordinated with the operations of the regional mobile reserves.

    5. Settlements which because of their geographical location cannot be included in a fixed regional defense plan must be organized into local defense zones. Accordingly, they must be equipped to block transport roads used by the enemy, or if tactical circumstances permit, to control the heights, setting up fortifications and barricades and laying mines, etc. This will be done in addition to activating the zone's defensive apparatus. Additional forces must be assigned to carry out these duties, as will be detailed below. These specifications also apply to isolated regions.

    6. Blocking the main enemy transportation routes.

    a) The main enemy transportation routes which link his lands to the lands of the state, such as roads, bridges, main passes, important crossroads, paths, etc. must be blocked by means of: acts of sabotage, explosions, series of barricades, mine fields, as well as by controlling the elevations near roads and taking up positions there.

    b) A system of barricades must be set up in addition to the fixed defensive system. The tactical plans concerning barricades must be adapted to and coordinated with the defensive plans concerning the zones located near these barricades. They must also be coordinated with the regional defense plans if this is possible from the geographical point of view.

    (b) Consolidation of Defense Systems and Fortifications

    The following operations must be carried out if the fixed defensive system is to be effective and if the rear of this system is to be protected:

    1. Occupation of police stations.6

    2. Control of government installations and provision of services in each and every region.

    3. Protection of secondary transportation arteries.

    4. Mounting operations against enemy population centers located inside or near our defensive system in order to prevent them from being used as bases by an active armed force. These operations can be divided into the following categories:


    Destruction of villages (setting fire to, blowing up, and planting mines in the debris), especially those population centers which are difficult to control continuously.

    Mounting search and control operations according to the following guidelines: encirclement of the village and conducting a search7 inside it. In the event of resistance, the. armed force must be destroyed and the population must be expelled outside the borders of the state.

    The villages which are emptied in the manner described above must be included in the fixed defensive system and must be fortified as necessary.

    In the absence of resistance, garrison troops will enter the village and take up positions in it or in locations which enable complete tactical control. The officer in command of the unit will confiscate all weapons, wireless devices, and motor vehicles in the village. In addition, he will detain all politically suspect individuals. After consultation with the [Jewish] political authorities, bodies will be appointed consisting of people from the village to administer the internal affairs of the village. In every region, a [Jewish] person will be appointed to be responsible for arranging the political and administrative affairs of all [Arab] villages and population centers which are occupied within that region.

    (c) Deployment in Major Cities

    Positions will be taken in the large cities according to the following principles:

    1. Occupation and control of government facilities and property (post offices, telephone exchanges, railroad stations, police stations, harbors, etc. )

    2. Protection of all vital public services and installations.

    3. Occupation and control of all isolated Arab neighborhoods located between our municipal center and the Arab municipal center, especially those neighborhoods which control the city's exit and entry roads. These neighborhoods will be controlled according to the guidelines set for searching villages. In case of resistance, the population will be expelled to the area of the Arab municipal center.

    4. Encirclement of the central Arab municipal area and its isolation from external transportation routes, as well as the termination of its vital services (water, electricity, fuel, etc.), as far as possible. ,

    (d) Control of Main Transportation Arteries on the Regional Level

    1. Occupation and control of locations which overlook main regional transportation arteries, such as police stations, water pumps, etc. These elevated locations will be transformed into fortified surveillance posts to be used, when the need arises, as bases for a mobile defensive force. (In many cases, this operation will be coordinated with the occupation of police stations, which aims at consolidating the fixed defensive system.)

    2. Occupation and control of Arab villages which constitute a serious obstruction on any of the main transportation arteries. Operations against these villages will be carried out according to the specifications given under the item pertaining to the searching of villages.

    (e) Enemy Cities Will Be Besieged according to the Following Guidelines:

    1. By isolating them from transportation arteries by laying mines, blowing up bridges, and a system of fixed ambushes.

    2. If necessary, by occupying high points which overlook transportation arteries leading to enemy cities, and the fortification of our units in these positions.

    3. By disrupting vital services, such as electricity, water, and fuel, or by using economic resources available to us. or by sabotage.

    4. By launching a naval operation against the cities that can receive supplies by sea, in order to destroy the vessels carrying the provisions, as well as by carrying out acts of sabotage against harbor facilities.

    (f) Occupation and Control of Front line Enemy Positions

    Generally, the aim of this plan is not an operation of occupation outside the borders of the Hebrew state. However, concerning enemy bases lying directly close to the borders which may be used as springboards for infiltration into the territory of the state, these must be temporarily occupied and searched for hostiles according to the above guidelines, and they must then be incorporated into our defensive system until operations cease.

    Bases located in enemy territory which are intended to be temporarily occupied and controlled will be listed among the operational targets for the various brigades.

    (g) Counterattacks Inside and Outside the Borders of the State

    Counterattacks will be used as ancillary measures for the fixed defensive system in order to abort the organized attacks launched by semi-regular and regular enemy forces, whether from bases inside the country or from outside the borders.

    Counterattacks will be launched according to the following guidelines:

    1. Diversionary attacks; i.e., while the enemy is launching an attack against one of our areas, [our forces will launch] a counterattack deep inside another area controlled by the enemy with the aim of diverting his forces in the direction of the counterattack.

    2. Striking at transportation and supply routes deep inside enemy territory, especially against a regular enemy force which is invading from across the border.

    3. Attacking enemy bases in his rear, both inside the country [Palestine] and across its borders.

    4. Counterattacks will generally proceed as follows: a force the size of a battalion, on average, will carry out a deep infiltration and will launch concentrated attacks against population centers and enemy bases with the aim of destroying them along with the enemy force positioned there;

    alternatively, this force may split up to carry out secondary operations, such as acts of sabotage and diversion on the enemy's military transportation routes and arteries.

    5. A detailed list of counterattacks will be included in the [list of]8 operational targets of the Strategic Mobile Force [PALMACH].
     
  6. DrewBedson

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    Nothing in there about ethnic cleansing but I'm sure Gru will provide a quote about how Hitler was personally leading this or something like that with the usual no proof of any kind to back it up with. Oh, and he'll take ten pages to do it with along with the usual Al Aqsa accusations of Hasbara :roflol:

    I just hope he can prove his two contentions that

    1. ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members""

    and

    2. the ""SS trained Haganah""

    Not holding my breath though, he seems to be digging his Madrassah deeper and deeper with each voluminous post.
     
  7. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I noticed that you were careful to omit the actual source of Plan Dalet whose authors were Mass Murdering members of Zionist Terrorist gangs & skilled in innocuous sounding verbiage.

    You were equally careful to avoid addressing the genocidal deployment of IDF's Experimental Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs that are consistent with the goal of expelling & exterminating all of Palestine's Native Residents:

    [/QUOTE]7. Perhaps the most compelling indicator that most Israelis want all Palestinians dead or gone is the widespread deployment of Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs that kill not only existing natives of Palestine but sterilize & ensure the deaths of unborn children:

    “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III”
    https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748
    EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds....
    .......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED[/QUOTE]



    Anyone who has served in the military knows that that the outlining of any Plan rarely resembles the realities of its implementation.

    An example of the implementation of Plan Dalet was witnessed by a Red Cross doctor (Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling:


    “They used to enter houses and kill women and children indiscriminately”: Deir Yasin Massacre,(*)09.04.1948

    http://avoicefrompalestine.wordpres...-forget-deir-yasin-massacre-09-04-1948/#_ftn3

    "A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor (Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself – the mopping up – as one of the terrorists put it to him.

    He says that the “mopping up” had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished off with knives.

    Women’s bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers.

    Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood.

    Of those 250 people, 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in their abdomens while still alive.

    52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off.

    Their mothers were in turn massacred and their bodies mutilated. About 60 other women and girls were also killed and their bodies mutilated.

    British interrogating officer, Deputy Inspector General Richard Catling, confirmed that:

    “The recording of statements is hampered also by the hysterical state of the women who often break down many times whilst the statement is being recorded.

    There is, however, no doubt that many sexual atrocities were committed by the attacking Jews.

    Many young schoolgirls were raped and later slaughtered. Old women were also molested.

    One story is current concerning a case in which a young girl was literally torn in two.

    Many infants were also butchered and killed.

    I also saw one old woman … who had been severely beaten about the head with rifle butts.

    Women had bracelets torn from their arms and rings from their fingers and parts of some of the women’s ears were severed in order to remove earrings.”[1]

    _ _ _ _ _ _

    In spite of the innocuous verbiage of Plan Dalet on paper, its mass murdering War Criminals: Begin, Shamir, Sharon etc clearly intended to expel & exterminate as many Native Residents of Palestine as Possible as is the current agenda via the widespread deployment of Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs today.

    What other purpose does the deployment of Chemical Weapons, Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs all over civilian neighborhoods have except to exterminate Palestine's Native non-Jewish Population?
     
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    It was actually the Jew government that did the ethnic cleansing. They made it the law that Arabs were banned from returning to their houses by law. And so made it an apartheid state. They did that so the Jew was able to thieve the "vacant" properties of the Arabs, "justified" with an other law.

    Hence the apartheid state Israel is being singled out.
    No country is so full with racist thieves as that.
     
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    If you're going to ignore my previous 6 responses over 3 different threads, what's the point in my wasting MORE time writing a 7th?

    READ WHAT I'VE ALREADY WRITTEN

    Unless, of course, you must continue attempting to "Score Points in order to avoid genuine debate":




    “Zionism and the art of propaganda: downplaying rationality”
    http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.php/2009/03/30/zionism-and-the-art-of-propaganda-downpl

    EXCERPTS ""Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message. To effectively present Israel to the public, and to counter anti-Israel messages, it is necessary to understand propaganda devices." -Hasbara Handbook: Promoting Israel on Campus


    Point Scoring
    Point scoring is a method of communication that prioritises making certain points favourable to the speaker, and attacking opponents of the speaker by trying to undermine their positions. Point scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate, whilst avoiding genuine discussion.

    How To Score Points Whilst Avoiding Debate
    Central to point scoring is the ability to disguise point scoring by giving the impression of genuine debate. Audience members can be alienated by undisguised attacks, so all point scoring needs to be disguised. To disguise point scoring, comments need to seem to be logical, and to follow from what was said before.”CONTINUED




    The current topic is: "So why single out Israel?"

    One of many reasons is because there are only 4 countries that have refused to sign an agreement not to deploy Chemical Weapons: Egypt, N. Korea, Sudan & Israel.

    Of those countries, Israel's receives the most US Aid, US weaponry & deploys Chemical Weapons, Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs all over civilian neighborhoods.


    Other than blatant genocide, what other purpose does the deployment of Chemical Weapons, Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs all over civilian neighborhoods have except to exterminate Palestine's Native non-Jewish Population?
     
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    You don't return refugees in the middle of a war. Hardly a government action but rather a Geneva Convention reality. So, if this is your basis for ethnic cleansing then I suppose you don't have a leg to stand on.
     
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    I've addressed every one of them and carried out your research for you only to find your names are not supporting your contention. You have lied, there is no factual basis for your comments that ""the early IDF was successful partially because so many of its members & leaders were former Wehrmacht & Waffen SS members""

    and

    the ""SS trained Haganah""

    Since you have yet to confess you lied then we can only surmise you still believe this to be true therefore, until then, all your posts are suspect to be filled with lies such as this.

    First, I have no points to score as you lied therefore we don't even have a debate as whatever it is you are trying to apply to an imaginary argument is not even on the table. Second, until you confess to these lies all your contentions are equally suspect.

    It is my duty as a poster with good faith to draw everyone's attention to these facts until you rectify them and begin to post in good faith.
     
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    Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority.
     
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    The law that Arabs were banned to return, and their properties stolen after they were ethnically cleansed was made after the war by the Jew government.

    As if you didn't know.
     
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    Please provide some facts on countries that have sent refugees back to their homes in time of war.

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    Geneva Convention my dear notme. You don't return refugees in the middle of a war.
     
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    The war finished, the Arabs who lived in Israel were not allowed back home. If you are going to suggest otherwise please provide evidence of what war was happening.

    As you have chosen to ignore the rest of the post I will repeat it so others can see your deflection.

    Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority
     
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    The law banning Arabs from going to their homes was made AFTER the war. It is so, because the Jew was already busy thieving Arab properties and Arabs returning them placed them in a iffy situation. So than the apartheid Jew regime made the law banning Arabs from returning.


    Also.. for the luls...
    It's Jordan who was not allowed to send Palestinian refugees back to Israel in a war.
    Israel has no rights to ban refugees from going back to their homes.
    You're mixing things up so it fits your apartheid ideology.
     
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    Certainly, it was good old fashioned racism Jews in Arabs out!
     
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    Still at war notme. Golly, pick up a newspaper sometime.
     
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    So again Drew provides no evidence that any war was going on in 1949 when the Arabs in Israel should of been wanted back by the new country of Israel. But they did not want Arabs because of their racist ideology. They had to ensure a Jewish Majority.
     
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    Another one who needs to take a refresher on ME history. Jordan and Egypt are the only entities to make peace with Israel which means that all other belligerents still are at war with her. That includes the Palestinians who as part of the Arab League in 1948 were complicit in declaring war against Israel.

    Oh, that's why the PA in it's Charter states it is at war and, why talks between Palestinians and Israelis are called 'peace talks.'
     
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    Palestinians Drew, as we are constantly told there was no such thing as Palestinians in 1949, there were Arabs whose homes were in the State of Israel, and 1 in 4 were still in Israel. Please provide evidence that those Arabs who were now Israelis did not wish to return to their homes and live in peace.

    And since you do not deal with the other points in the post but keep deflecting to a non existent war I will repeat it again!

    Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority
     
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    Ethnic cleansing is not a war crime?
    Well I guess only to the criminal would claim something idiotic like that. lol

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    It doesn't include the Israeli Arabs who got ethnic cleansed.
     
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    It sure is, have you found any evidence of it so far?

    You mean that when there is peace and people can actually begin the process of returning to Israel that if, in fact, there was any ethnic cleansing going on they can address it then, at peace rather than send people back to a war zone. I totally agree.

    But right now, you don't send refugee home when there is a war going on.
     
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    Again Drew you fixate on one subject, this time a war that did not exist, this deflection is to take away from the subject of the ethnic cleansing that was carried out.

    Again.

    Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority
     
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    Provide the facts to back this up with. Be sure to only include nations that were at war when they allowed refugees who were in safe countries to return and how many did.
     

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