Well... it's a fact that the Jew government banned Arabs to return to their own home by making it into a law, and than with an other law they made the thieving of their properties legal as well. As if you didn't know. I thought I mentioned this before. Oh look I did. How is life like a failing broken record, failing to whitewash the Jew apartheid state from ethnic cleansing? lol The Jew returns to Israel at the moment and have been for decades, while the Arabs are banned to return to their own homes. Nobody is making them to go. Israel is refusing them to arrive.
And since you do not deal with the other points in the post but keep deflecting to a non existent war I will repeat it again! Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority No need Drew I will just keep repeating your deflection.
I prefer he term "Zionist Regime(s) over "the Jew government " because of the few remaining, ethical & courageous Israeli Jews who share our sentiments, goals & abuse at the hands of paid, trained, scripted & State supported Hasbara propagandists & violent, IDF supporter Settler extremists. For example, B’Tselem provides the video equipment, cameras, develops the film & publicizes the proof of Israeli Government Ethnic Cleansing for the world to see. B'Tselem | The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the ... http://www.btselem.org/ EXCERPT "Endeavors to document and educate the Israeli public and policymakers about human rights violations in the Occupied Territories, etc" CONTINUED Perhaps the most heavily censored genocidal atrocity committed by the Zionist Regimes involves the extermination of Palestine's Native non Jewish Residents via the deployment of Chemical Weapons, Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs all over civilian neighborhoods Another Jewish Israeli group that publicizes IDF's prolific deployment of these lethal, internationally banned WMDs is “Tikun Olam “ For Example: “Israel Used Depleted Uranium Munitions During Gaza Offensive” http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2...eted-uranium-munitions-during-gaza-offensive/ “Tikun Olam “ EXCERPT “Here are some of their health effects: Normal functioning of the kidney, brain, liver, heart, and numerous other systems can be affected by uranium exposure, because in addition to being weakly radioactive, uranium is a toxic metal.(*) DU is less toxic than other heavy metals such as arsenic and mercury.[65] It is weakly radioactive but remains radioactive because of its long half-life."CONTINUED In addition to mass extermination of the existing Native Palestinian population, clever Israeli scientists have developed illegal ordinance that forcibly sterilizes captive & Occupied Palestinians, ensures birth deaths future malformations & terminal disorders in future Generations: - “Gaza sees more newborns of malformation” http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-12/31/content_12737744.htm - “The DIME Bomb: Yet another genotoxic weapon, Part III” https://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=5748 EXCERPT “ Since early July, Israeli forces have been using a new weapon in the Gaza Strip that inflicts strange and deadly wounds.... .......DU & NDU bombs are converted to micron-sized particles that sicken and kill and murder the next generation in the womb.”CONTINUED To ensure the maximum deaths of Occupied Palestinians, Israel even bans those medical personnel best qualified to treat mild cases of IDF's WMD toxicity: - “Israel shuts Dr Gilbert out from Gaza for life” http://www.thelocal.no/20141114/israel-shuts-gilbert-out-from-gaza-for-life Don't expect to read or hear anything about Israel's WMD Genocide especially in Zionist dominated US Major Media: - “US media hid 2009 UN report showing Israel using chemical weapons against Palestinians” http://sputniknews.com/voiceofrussi...g-chemical-weapons-against-Palestinians-5098/ http://beforeitsnews.com/israel/201...cal-weapons-against-palestinians-2443038.html One of the more thorough descriptions of the effects of Israel's Genocidal WMD extermination agenda is outlined in the following article: "....the flesh fell off like jelly" “Medical personnel claim Israel tested new weapons during attacks on Gaza” http://www.irishtimes.com/news/worl...-new-weapons-during-attacks-on-gaza-1.1919645 EXCERPTS “Doctors and an ambulance officer believe Israel tested new weapons during its July 8th – August 26th assault on the Gaza Strip. “The five children from the al-Jaal family in Zeitoun were the strangest thing I ever saw in my life.” The room where three girls and two boys... ... “Their bodies were hot. Their hair and skin were black liked charred wood. When their parents arrived at the hospital, they didn’t recognise them,” Dr Sobhi Skaik, chief surgeon and medical director at Shifa hospital and a member of the Royal College of Surgeons in Edinburgh, told me earlier: “We saw third-degree burns that cannot be explained; neither flame burns nor chemical burns. It was as if the patient became mummified, and most of them died. Their skin blackened and their tissue became tough and solid. I saw dozens of patients like this in the intensive care unit, . “I saw more than a dozen bodies that looked normal, with no marks or wounds. But when we touched them they were slippery. If you tried to pick them up, the flesh fell off like jelly. We had to roll them in blankets.” . “In previous wars, we could treat most of the wounded,” says Dr Skaik. “This time, the number and magnitude of wounds was far greater. One third were dead on arrival.”CONTINUED ( I suggest that you read the entire article The Israeli Government's deployment of Chemical Weapons, Genotoxic, N.D.U., D.U. ordinance & D.I.M.E. bombs etc are not limited to non Jewish human beings but to guarantee more deaths, hunger & greater hardships, IDF poisons farmland, livestock & targets food producing Fishermen: - “Israel Sprays Farms In Gaza With Poisonous Chemicals (Video)” http://yournewswire.com/israel-sprays-farms-in-gaza-with-poisonous-chemicals-video/ - “Gaza's corpse-ridden farms reveal destruction of Palestinian livelihoods” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...l-destruction-of-Palestinian-livelihoods.html EXCERPT “ Perished livestock and destroyed crops leave ordinary Gazans facing financial ruin"CONTINUED - “Despite truce, Gaza fishermen under fire at sea” http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle-east/despite-truce-gaza-fishermen-under-fire-at-sea - “Israel escalates deadly attacks on Gaza's fishers” http://www.theecologist.org/News/ne...scalates_deadly_attacks_on_gazas_fishers.html EXCERPT “ Israel is routinely attacking boats within the zone, arresting fishermen, and seizing boats and nets, never to be returned. Only last week, one fisherman was shot dead after allegedly straying over an invisible boundary.”CONTINUED - “Airstrikes destroying Gaza's fishing industry” https://www.oxfam.org/en/emergencies/airstrikes-destroying-gazas-fishing-industry _ _ _ _ _ _ Israel's network of paid, trained, scripted, full time, State supported Hasbara propagandists around the world attempt to deny, obfuscate lie about these internationally witnessed atrocities and talk of "Terror Tunnels" but as you can see, when an Occupied community's food supply is targeted, it is done for one reason; to kill as many innocent civilians as possible. Another excuse for massacring innocent Palestinians by the thousands is from so-called "Terror Rockets". Hasbara propagandists rave about thousands of "Terror Rockets" raining on Israeli babies every day etc etc However, the reality is that a total of 26 Israelis have died from ALL rockets fired EVER as of 2012: “Dissecting IDF propaganda: The numbers behind the rocket attacks” http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/dissecting-idf-propaganda-the-numbers-behind-the-rocket-attacks.html source Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center (ITIC). EXCERPTS “To begin, Israeli spokespeople frequently remind the world that a million Israeli citizens are within range of Gaza rockets, twelve thousand of which have been fired into Israel in the last twelve years, inflicting thousands of injuries and several dead. However, we are rarely told exactly how many people have been killed by these rocket attacks.” Throughout the years of rocket attacks into Israel, a total of 26 people have been killed altogether.” CONTINUED As you have probably experienced with your Posts, this Post, like others I've submitted will incur the usual formulaic, Hasbara "faux rebuttals" that refute nothing but are heavy on insults, Off-topic diversions & snarling, sarcastic personal slurs but........ who cares. The decent & ethical Israeli Jews who confront Israel's increasingly fanatic, Right Wing, Settler / Colonists endure death threats, beatings & far worse abuse from humanoid specimens so delusional that they think "God" gave them a license to steal. I hope that as you continue to oppose US government enablement of Zionist genocide & Land Theft you will also remember these many ethical & courageous Jews, American & Israeli, who are fighting the same fight for a fair & equitable U.S. Mid East Foreign Policy. Thanks
No deflection. You said that most countries allow refugees to return I asked you to provide examples of countries at war, as Israel is, to support your contention. If you cannot then I understand but why you would post something and not even being remotely confident of it's truth is borderline lying and your not being willing to deal with truth or lie makes your other contentions not even worth considering.
Whatever Drew, Hear is what Drew who demands evidence keeps deflecting! Remember 1 in 4 Arabs were still IN Israel. and yet drew wants to discuss non exsistant wars and evednce that countries want their refugees back. Again ONE IN FOUR ARABS WERE STILL IN ISRAEL And since you do not deal with the other points in the post but keep deflecting to a non existent war I will repeat it again! Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority
Since there is no war then why is there peace talks, why did Egypt and Jordan sign a peace treaty, why does article 10 of the PA charter state they are at war? Why do Arabs want peace talks and treaties when they are at peace already? Why if there is no war does the international community and the UN try so hard to get peace negotiations going? And why is it so difficult for you to show us all these countries that move refugees back during time of war?
Whatever Drew, Hear is what Drew who demands evidence keeps deflecting! Remember 1 in 4 Arabs were still IN Israel. and yet drew wants to discuss non exsistant wars and evednce that countries want their refugees back. Again ONE IN FOUR ARABS WERE STILL IN ISRAEL And since you do not deal with the other points in the post but keep deflecting to a non existent war I will repeat it again! Except that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes, 80% of Arabs fled during the 1948 war, but Israel did not want them back. Instead 1 in 4 Arabs STILL in Israel were declared "present absentees" there homes were confiscated and turned over to the state. It had nothing to do with whether they were combatants or not it was simply because they were not Jews. It was simply ethnic cleansing to ensure a sustainable Jewish Majority. Indeed if the Arabs had been allowed to return to their home and land Israel would probably not have a Jewish majority now. And that is what the ethnic cleansing was about, not peace, not Israels security, but Israels Jewish majority
Hello, Grau; your posts are so refreshing and stimulating, because you speak the truth as you know it without fear of consequences. More than once have I heard nobody is not allowed to criticize Israel... you would be labeled an Anti-Semitic instantly. It is as bad as denying the holocaust for which you go to jail, no matter how old you are--> Ursula Haverbeck... German grandmother, 87, is sentenced to ten months in jail for denying the Holocaust and saying Auschwitz was 'just a labour camp' http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ocaust-saying-Auschwitz-just-labour-camp.html The worst is Merkel didn't even stop this nonsense! Voltaire said "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." P.S. The Norwegian Doctor is a good example... he dared to criticize. Lucky for him they didn't kill him.
You mean to say that your deflecting post is <sacrosanct>? Well I will keep reminding everyone that ONE MILLION JEWS OF THE ARAB COUNTRIES have been kicked out of their birthplace... their bank account, their Real Estate, their homes etc., were all confiscated in other words signed off to the governments for a ticket to Europe... most of them are in Israel today although some are in Brasil and France. Revelation : Nearly 50% of Israel is made out of Jews from the Arab countries... after a lapse of 60 years they are in Israel with multiple kids, I wish them well, they finally returned to their ancient home... and I am asking my deflecting partner... who is the loser? I think you must agree with me the Arab States are... since Israel has gained tremendously by their presence here!
Hardly. Once again you made your points based on one thing - that you believed there was no war going on. I showed there was and proved it by showing that the Arabs said there was, the UN says there was and is, the Palestinians and Israelis say there is, the international community says there is so, with that in mind, please prove your point by givieng us a bunch of examples where nations at war brought back refugees during that war. After all, you said; ""that most countries are only too keen to get there refugees back to their homes"" So far, not one example.
Since you say he speaks the truth then you obviously believe that the bulk of the IDF was made up of former SS members and the Haganah was trained by the SS. Provide your facts to support this garbage otherwise, you are two peas in the same factually challenged Al Aqsa pod.
Here we are Drew here is your record of deflecting, 1 in 4 Arab Israeli's were not allowed back to their homes because they were Arabs, you suggest Israel was in civil war with itself in 1949, so funny. Why not just admit to the racism and ethnic cleansing Israel carried out. If you were Arab you were out and according to Drew even at war with your own country! For no other reason than racist Jews thought if you were Arab you were the enemy!
Once again you fail to understand that Israel was at war, a war not of their declaration against the Arabs of the region. In the area, if you were not part of Israel you were in an Arab country, region or place. Thus, Arabs who fled Israel as refugees and found safety would be returning to a war zone as the war was still going and is still going to this day. That includes 1949 Ria. Israel was at war with all of the Arab League at that time. Since then, only Jordan and Egypt have made peace.
Making up your own history again Drew, 1948 Israel Defense Forces (IDF) established Armistice agreements signed with Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. Jerusalem divided under Israeli and Jordanian rule. http://www.zionismontheweb.org/middle_east/Israel/timeline_of_Israel.htm The 1949 Armistice Agreements are a set of armistice agreements signed during 1949 between Israel and neighboring Egypt,[1] Lebanon,[2] Jordan,[3] and Syria[4] to formally end the official hostilities of the 1948 Arab–Israeli War, and establish armistice lines between Israeli forces and Jordanian-Iraqi forces, also known as the Green Line. The United Nations established supervising and reporting agencies to monitor the established armistice lines. In addition, discussions related to the armistice enforcement, led to the signing of the separate Tripartite Declaration of 1950 between the United States, Britain, and France. In it, they pledged to take action within and outside the United Nations to prevent violations of the frontiers or armistice lines. It also outlined their commitment to peace and stability in the area, their opposition to the use or threat of force, and reiterated their opposition to the development of an arms race. These lines held until the 1967 Six-Day War. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1949_Armistice_Agreements
So to sum up, At Least 700,000Arabs were forced from there homes or fled from the Jews in the 1948 war of independence. 350,000 fled from Jewish aggression before the end of the mandate. 1 in 4 Arabs still inside Israel were declared "present absentees" and had their land confiscated by their own government Israel. Israel signed armistice agreements in 1949 with its neighbors. Arabs were not allowed to return to their land or homes simply because they were not Jews. This is the ethnic cleansing Hasbara shrills deny. All this was done to ensure a substantial Jewish Majority, if the Arabs of Israel had been allowed to return it is doubtful Israel would have a Jewish majority today.
Armistice is a ceasefire, a temporary truce while the hostilities still remain. ""An agreement made by opposing sides in a war to stop fighting for a certain time; a truce"" Peace was not achieved until Egypt and Jordan signed peace treaties with Israel. Peace with all the other members of the Arab League and Palestinians still remain unsigned or ratified. Hence, they are still at war with Israel.
War is a state of armed conflict, War Definition: The use of violence and force between two or more states to resolve a matter of dispute. http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/W/War.aspx Now tell us why those rascist Jews would not allow the Arabs back to there own land?
I didn't mean to sound critical or condescending just as I don't know how many Israeli Jews are opposed to the atrocities of the Zionist Regime. I do know that the Netanyahu Regime feeds into Israel's hate filled Right Wing Extremists who hate Christians as well as Muslims: Jewish Extremists' Leader: Christians Are 'Blood Sucking Vampires' Who Should Be Expelled From Israel http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.693132 EXCERPT Benzi Gopstein, head of Lehava, calls to ban Christmas in the Holy Land: 'Let us remove the vampires before they once again drink our blood.' Gopstein wrote in the article that he is disturbed by the fall of the line of defense of the Jewish people against our deadly enemy for hundreds of years the Christian Church.CONTINUED It is also harder for Israeli Jews to oppose those same hate-filled Right Wing Extremists without death threats etc: Far-Right extremism on the rise in Israel as Gaza conflict continues http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ise-in-Israel-as-Gaza-conflict-continues.html EXCERPT Attacks on journalists and artists and pro-war rallies in Israel point to growing far-Right extremism fuelled by nation's politicians as much as conflict with Hamas Israelis who speak out against the assault on Gaza or in favour of a ceasefire with Hamas are increasingly facing violence or even death threats as tensions continue to rise in the country. Last month, demonstrations in central Jerusalem with cries of Death to Arabs brought traffic to a halt. ....several dozen right wing thugs clutching baseball bats appeared and started attacking the left-wing protesters. Death to the Leftists! Leftists are traitors!, they cried There is tolerance of this extremist rhetoric by the present Israeli government, Israeli journalist Gideon Levy......has also been the subject of numerous death threats and was recommended by friends to temporarily leave the country. Hanin Zoabi, the Israeli-Arab MP.....now cannot leave the house without security, having been the subject of intense death-threat campaigns." CONTINUED Just as Iran is becoming far more moderate & Reformist with women members of Iran's Parliament, now, outnumbering clerics, the Zionist Colony is becoming even more of a hard line Theocracy.
And an armistice is a ceasefire, a temporary truce while the hostilities still remain. Your answer lies in post 3215.
The answers to all your concerns are in the 6 (or 7) previous responses I've Posted you've chosen to ignore so you can "Score Points" by pretending I didn't answer you. You're only hoping that others haven't seen my thorough answers so you can play your Hasbara "poster in good faith" B.S. Disprove anything I've said........."poster with good faith"...... LOL I'm not wasting any more time on your Off-Topic "Point Scoring" Zionism and the art of propaganda: downplaying rationality http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/...paganda-downpl EXCERPTS ""Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions, and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message. To effectively present Israel to the public, and to counter anti-Israel messages, it is necessary to understand propaganda devices." -Hasbara Handbook: Promoting Israel on Campus Point Scoring Point scoring is a method of communication that prioritises making certain points favourable to the speaker, and attacking opponents of the speaker by trying to undermine their positions. Point scoring communication ought to give the appearance of rational debate, whilst avoiding genuine discussion. How To Score Points Whilst Avoiding Debate Central to point scoring is the ability to disguise point scoring by giving the impression of genuine debate. Audience members can be alienated by undisguised attacks, so all point scoring needs to be disguised. To disguise point scoring, comments need to seem to be logical, and to follow from what was said before.CONTINUED
hostilities acts of warfare. plural noun: hostilities "he called for an immediate cessation of hostilities" synonyms: fighting, conflict, armed conflict, combat, warfare, war, bloodshed, violence, action, military action, battles, strife https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=hostilities&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=gC8nV8KwHomFgAbx3ZuwCQ A simple case of you not understanding the context of hostilities with regards war. It happens with non english speakers a lot, the context is very important in English.
Always important to keep using the original quote so anyone unbiased can see the tactics used by some posters. Here Grau, we have a poster claiming that the 1 in 4 Israeli Arabs who were inside Israel and called "present absentees" could not return to their homes because the country was at war, even though history says Israel was not at war at the time, even though they were in the country anyway! It obscures the real reason why they were not allowed back, which was to establish and secure a Jewish majority.
UNRWA record is 450,000! Stick to facts. Jews did not throw Arabs out, they ran away by order/choice.
