Sochi 2014: Israeli Gay rights protests target Russia's games

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  1. Art_Allm

    Art_Allm Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Well, the Soviet Union was a multi-ethnic empire, a Prison of many different people, ruled by ruthless dictators, and Ukrainian was an occupied zone.

    It is obvious that the Anti-Christian government in Moscow was eager to weaken the Christian nationalistic elements in the occupied Ukraine, that is why they killed a huge part of the local population via starvation, and then they replaced the killed people with migrants from other parts of their Bolshevik Empire, that played and still play the role of a counter balance to the local Ukrainian population.

    That is an old and many times used strategy, dude!
     
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    no, the Kulacks did not get to the point of transporting the grain elsewhere, the grain had been taken from them to feed the cities.

    'obstinance'?.. and what year this was that someone could still demonstrate 'obstinance'?.. i have already told you to keep the timeline in correct order. Stalin then just took from the rich to feed the poor, nothing personal or political, the Kulacks wanted to be smart but as result they've only cheated themselves.

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    you should go study history by documents, not by Hollywood movies.
     
  5. litwin

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    Sharik, did you talk to older villagers ? "kulaks" - "from the rich to feed the poor" is an old communistic propaganda construction , you guys did have enough effective bureaucratic system to execute this plan. your commissars took everything from anyone. thats why so many died
     
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    So being gay makes you less of a man? Is that what you're trying to say?
     
  7. sharik

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    talk to those who were with the Kulaks or those who were with the Kolkhozes?

    so 'starved to death' is not a propaganda spin?

    'took everything' is an overstatement, of course; as to how many and why died - there's no telling actually, only speculations.
     
  8. litwin

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    do you found your soul in a trashcan? i have my believes too but will never dance on crops cannibalized children , so called Kulaks represented less then 10% of peasant population , and take my word they did much batter through holodomor then the poor peasants
    [​IMG]http://www.rferl.org/content/Holodomor_Is_Ukraines_NeverEnding_Trauma/1357818.html
     
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    No offense, but what you want isn't really my concern - I care infinitely more about your actions.

    What do you want? Protesters caged? Homosexuals generally caged? Fines for protesting? Cage people who don't show nipples or genitals in public?
     
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    Yup it makes a gay less a man if they can not be a man
     
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    And what is a man, in your opinion? Surely the definition expands beyond reproduction.
     
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    I guess I wouldn't bother watching a 25 min vid anyway, double the case with Katar propaganda mouthpiece Al-Jazeera. I am smart enough to see an obvious agenda and unreliable sources, while you, apparently, not.

    <iframe width="400" height="325" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" src="https://www.google.com/publicdata/embed?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&amp;ctype=l&amp;strail=false&amp;bcs=d&amp;nselm=h&amp;met_y=sp_pop_grow&amp;scale_y=lin&amp;ind_y=false&amp;rdim=country&amp;idim=country:RUS&amp;ifdim=country&amp;tstart=635288400000&amp;tend=1329512400000&amp;hl=ru&amp;dl=ru&amp;ind=false"></iframe>

    I am satisfied with status-quo, which means ~ fine for illigal demonstration.
     
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    Definition of man or male:
    1. a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man.
    2. an organism of the sex or sexual phase that normally produces a sperm cell or male gamete.
    3. an adult male person, as distinguished from a boy or a woman.
    4. a member of the species Homo sapiens or all the members of this species collectively, without regard to sex: prehistoric man.
    5. the human individual as representing the species, without reference to sex


    In this discussion we are referring to man a person a person bearing an X and Y chromosome pair in the cell nuclei and normally having a penis, scrotum, and testicles, and developing hair on the face at adolescence; a boy or man. This would mean that gays are man not female not gays.
     
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    Katar propaganda - maybe..., but its high quality journalistic, why do your propagandists can not produce something similar ?
     
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    Hollywood fully ignores the crimes of Bolsheviks, there are no movies about the Holodomor or any other crimes of Bolsheviks.

    Hollywood produced a huge amount of films about "them Nazis" and the Holocaust, but the Joe Sixpack is not offered any Hollywood films about Genrikh Yagoda or Lazar Kaganovich.

    Guess why?

    ;)
     
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    this is a fact, question is why?
     
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    and why? Stalin did get portrayal by Hollywood anyway.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II:_When_Lions_Roared
    [video=youtube;28kRJelweks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28kRJelweks[/video]
     
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    Abject nonsense the term Kulak was applied in 1918 to any peasant who refused to hand over their grain to agents from Moscow.
     
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    he called all presents for Kulaks ...
     
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    read the entire thread before posting so that you don't look silly, because the year in question is circa the 1930s.
     
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    Yes, Uncle Sam was in bed with Uncle Joe, and they had to sell this to the stupid American public, not mentioning that Stalin was a mass murder who murdered millions of Christians.

    But what about such mass murders, like Genrikh Yagoda or Lazar Kaganovich?

    Do they show in the USA Hollywood films about mass murder of Christians by non-Christians?

    No, of course not!

    Hollywood does not care a rat's ass about the suffering of Christians from the hands of non-Christians!
     
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    Ya and it began in 1918, and the 1930s was after 1918. :roll: The term Kulak was arbitrary applied to anyone deemed a class enemy, it could be from owning a few cows to refusing to hand over grain to Moscow to any other arbitrary reason why the Stalinist democidal maniacs wanted to label one a class enemy and send to the Gulags are murder through extrajudicial execution.
     
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    My comment is that luckily Russians can be anything bad but no sexual dirty people. Down with Israeli gays...Go Russians!
     
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    no, it wasn't applied to those who joined the Kolkhozes (Collective Farming).
     
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    Ya it wasn't applied to those who didn't refuse to hand over the grain which they owned or the livestock that they raised. It was arbitrarily applied to peasant farmers who owned a couple of sheep or a couple more acres than their neighbors.
     

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