Something Every Perry Supporter Doesn't Want to See (Ron Paul Fans Will Like This)

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  1. Mac-7

    Mac-7 Banned

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    I'm talking about 3 that you don't have to research very hard to find.

    They are on the news every day yet liberals don't seem to mind at all.
     
  2. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Sounds more like Obama principles....Gitmo, wars,,etc. etc, etc,,,,
     
  3. Lionist

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    Many years ago when my state was working on "The right to work" legislation, some of us feverishly fought against it but lost. Now we have "The right to work" and since it was enacted there are more jobs. Low paying, part time less than minimum, or just minimum wage. Very few good paying jobs except for Union jobs.
    So if you have 1000 people looking for a job and 100 working at a living wages (not minimum by a long shot), "Right to work" takes those 100 jobs and turns it into 200 jobs at minimum wages or LESS. That is what "right to work" gets you.
    Our children, next generation, if fortunate enough to afford and get through college, all move away to earn a decent living. Hey but less people in the state makes it easier to employ the ones that are left (at minimum or less). Just like the Corp's want.
    Perry don't have a chance against OBAMA. Perry might have more money (from Corp buddies) for his campaign, but more votes beat more money every time.
    Best keep looking for that diamond in the rough cause the Recorpicons have not found one yet. That is if you all want to beat OBAMA.
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Then why are you supporting Perry?!?

    The only thing he knows how to do is cut corporate taxes and gut essential services, then when it blows up in his fce he begs other people to bail him out.
     
  5. Consmike

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    I am completely against unions. Please, by all means back up information you just stated.

    It has been shown that people who work in non-union auto company shops get paid just as well.
     
  6. Consmike

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    Why/ because we have alot of the same beliefs and because he will beat Obama
     
  7. Questerr

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    Anyone who would vote for some just because "they're not Obummer" is exactly what is wrong with America. People like you and her are (*)(*)(*)(*)ing this country as bad as the socialist progressives.

    Stop voting for lesser evils. It still leaves a piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) in power. Vote for someone who actually has principles and stands by the Constitution (yes, even the parts of t that you would rather ignore).
     
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    Obama is going to raise and spend $1 billion. Do you really think the Republican will meet or beat that?

    I don't.

    So the Vacationer in Chief must be getting a lot of corporate money also.

    Do you feed as strongly about illegal aliens driving down wages as you do Right to Work laws?

    If not you should.

    Because supply and demand applies to the job market just like any other.

    Too many unskilled workers chasing too few jobs means lower wages for everyone.
     
  9. Questerr

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    So you admit that you are a corporatist Neo-Con and that you don't actually care about fiscal responsibility or the Constitution?

    Finally.

    As for "he'll beat Obama", just like the other poster, you are what is wrong with America.
     
  10. Consmike

    Consmike New Member Past Donor

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    Honestly, any politician in the country would be better than Obama. that is fact.

    tell me, Perry served in the military, what service and sacrifice did Obama make for his country?
     
  11. IrishLefty

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    By not listening to outsiders you are only confirming your own ignorance. One does not need to be American to give advice to America. Like I said as a human being your nation has a tremendous impact on my life.

    America may not be telling Ireland and Canada how to run their country, but your nation certainly has a long track record of telling others who should govern their country, especially when the American government disagrees with the population.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d'état

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_Guatemalan_coup_d'état

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War#United_States_involvement

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Venezuelan_coup_d'état_attempt

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega
     
  12. Lionist

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    Because the non-union auto company has to compete with the union auto company in order to keep their employees. That is why the non-union workers with a decent wage follows the rise and fall of the unions.

    [​IMG]
     
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    No, I am concerned about lying heads of state.
     
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    Do you agree that it would be a mistake for the people in Iran to take the advice of the CIA?

    In this case you are the foreign agent trying to influence our domestic affairs.
     
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    Yes, I think the Iranian's should be free from Uncle Sam's grasp. No I am simply giving my opinion and getting involved in a discussion, I am not organizing a Coup to topple your elected government.
     
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    I know.

    Even our own libs, misguided as they are, think they are doing good.
     
  17. Lionist

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    Just because one pollie or the other says something do you believe it?
    OBAMA has taken 61 days vacation in 2 1/2 years. Far less than most Presidents before him.
    Just because someone is on vacation, do you think they don't have a phone, a computer, or trusted advisers informing him of what is going on?
    The vacation line is old and dumb.

    OBAMA has deported more illegals than any other before him. Guess he opened up more jobs for the US citizens.
    We can't go on for ever blaming the previous Admin for the whole we are in. Only when that whole is not filled yet can we do so and it is not. The previous Admin was losing jobs by the 100's of thousands. After OBAMA came in we started gaining jobs each month. We only started losing jobs again after the Recorpicons took back congress. Corporations over workers and party over country. All in order to try to do something they will not be able to do, unseat OBAMA.
    So the US loses because Recorp's WANT the job market, the economy to suck and blame it on OBAMA when it is them INTENTIONALLY causing the economical down fall.

    Perry is not going to be able to do it. Best keep looking guys.
     
  18. IrishLefty

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    1) Don't call me a "liberal" (America's left is actually centre-right internationally) call me a democratic socialist.

    2) Misguided, like wanting a quality of life like that of Scandinavia.
     
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    WHO THE (*)(*)(*)(*) CARES ABOUT OBAMA? I'm not voting for him, I'm encouraging no one to vote for him. If I had my way, he wouldn't seek reelection and would hand overthe reins to someone else.

    Just because Perry is better than Obama, that doesn't make him good. The IRA is better than Al Qaeda, but guess what? They're both terrorist groups who murder innocent people. Perry is better than Obama by degrees only. He's still a deficit spending, pro-interventionist, Loose Constitionalist, corporate whore.

    He will still (*)(*)(*)(*) up our country.
     
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    Obama has done everything in his power to reward those who break our immigration laws by coming here illegally.

    Just this week he has begun granting de facto amnesty to illegals because he wants the Hispanic vote in 2012.

    You drone on about vacation time while ignoring the fact that too many unskilled workers from Mexico drive down wages for Americans.
     
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    thats a complete lie. nothing you say is truth.
     
  22. IrishLefty

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    It's the complete truth, the GOP base refuses to acknowledge it.
     
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    None of what I said is a lie. Perry is a globalist and a corporatist. He is willing to sell out our sovereignty and give open our borders to enrich his corporate buddies. His "Texas Miracle" was bought through gutting essential services in Texas like education and emergency protection. He gutted the fire protection service so he could cut the corporate tax rate, then when the wildfires were more than what the service could handle, he begged the Fed to bail him out. That doesn't even begin to go into his hypocrisy. He opposed the stimulus, yet had no problem using stimulus money all the same. He supports state's rights yet wants a Constitutional Amendment to force his definition of marriage on America. He claims to support small governments, yet he believes it's appropriate forthe government to be in people's bedroom and he supported Texas's law that jailed gays for consensual sexual activity.
     
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    What I do enjoy seeing is socialists, especially foreign socialists, going absolutely nuts on Governor Perry running. They must be frightened silly. No, silly is the norm for socialists. Terribly frightened.
     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/25/AR2010072501790.html

    Being from a Hispanic family I'll let you in on a little secret. We like illegals less than most people. They give us a bad name and take the jobs we are willing to work unlike the lazy population of the US that were brought up on Mommy and Daddies pay checks and not taught how to work a decent days work.
    In order to try and weed out which of the illegals are criminal or not, it is better to grant a path forward to those that are not criminal making it easier to spot the drug lords and criminals. Those who don't seek amnesty are more likely to be criminal. Or if they are criminal, terrorists, or drug lords and get amnesty, they are easier to keep an eye on them if we know where they are, ya think?
     

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