Something Every Perry Supporter Doesn't Want to See (Ron Paul Fans Will Like This)

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  1. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    Everyone should he terrified. Do you want real reforms for America or doyou want more of the same? Perry represents more of the same. He will (*)(*)(*)(*) over this country just as effectively as Obama.
     
  2. Mac-7

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    I'm not impressed by the number of illegal aliens Obama claims he will deport.

    The reality is that he making it easier for illegal aliens to invade this country and steal jobs from Americans or drive down wages for everyone.

    Granting amnesty to non-violent illegals is just as bad and giving Mexican drug cartel gang members green cards.

    This country cannot support all the poor people in Mexico and Central America but Obama only cares about getting re-elected.
     
  3. Lionist

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    I see where your coming from. Non- violent and violent are just the same. If you have say 50 illegals in a neighborhood, and 200 that are US citizens. Of that 50 say 25 are violent. Which ones are you going to ask for ID? If you choose some of the US citizens, they are insulted and hurt but many understand. If you weed out the 50 then you have an opportunity to check them out to see if they are criminal. I think it is better to get the ones that just as soon kill you for the bread on your table than to tolerate the ones who will clean your home, manicure your lawn, or work in the fields 12 hours a day 7 days a week and earn their own bread (well tortillia's giggle). Or even make the best darn tortillia's you ever tasted. Saves me alot of work in making my own. :date:
     
  4. Mac-7

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    Don't you think low wages and high unemployment for Americans are killing the American Dream just as surely as the Mexican drug thugs are killing their victims?

    They all should go back if they are here illegally.

    The only difference is that the gang members should be deported in a body bag whenever possible.
     
  5. Mac-7

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    Let me respond to your insinuation that we have to stop randomly Hispanics on the street to find out if they are legal or not.

    That really isn't necessary or desirable.

    We should check for illegals when anyone applies for a drivers license or other official documents.

    If we just do that simple thing most illegal aliens will be caught.

    I could go further but you get the idea.

    There is a way to weed out illegals without harassing Hispanic American citizens and that is what we should do.
     
  6. IrishLefty

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    I am not frightened of Perry, I am worried he will do a disastrous job as President. I am also tired of seeing hypocrites as POTUS.
     
  7. signcutter

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    Perry was right... if he was talking to you. Perry balanced the Texas Budget using stimulus dollars.. 7 billion of them then being the true hypocrit that he is he denounced the stimulus as a waste of money and bad for the National debt... he also uses accounting tricks like postponing payment of debts so as not to have them show until the next fiscal year.

    Perry has has also slashed education funding.. citing that even though Texas population is growing at a faster rate than most states in the nation..the number of children in public schools will not increase. A large part of the 25 billion dollar shortfall in budget funds will be made on the back of education which will again be slashed in 2012.. but dont raise taxes on them oil companies ripping up the Texas landscape and injecting poison into the groundwater.

    Texas already has one of the lowest funded public education sytems in the country. THE lowest percentage of highschool graduates between the ages of 18 and 25.

    Texas Debt IS growing faster the the debt of the federal government.

    I was worried that perry would have a shot at the Whitehouse. I can see that his dirty laundry will sink him before he really gets up and running. He wont get teaparty support.. even they are beginning to realize that Perry is a globalist coporate shill.

    He is already crumbling under pressure .. saying stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) on camera.. his arrogant hypocrisy is already shining through...

    Rick Perry .. thanks for being a transparent idiot.
     
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    We Texans tried to warn you about Bush and look what happened? You seriously not going to listen to us on Perry?
     
  9. Lionist

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    I like the body bag approach. I don't think illegals are causing the lack of jobs. Illegals have been coming in and taking the jobs most US citizens wouldn't of taken before, if at all, the unemployment became so dismal. The lack of jobs are not the fault of illegals. Trade laws, greedy corp's, what have you are far more devastating to our job totals than illegals will ever be.
    Being unemployed is devastating, difficult, makes for very hard times. I don't see being unemployed anywhere near as bad as my kids or grandkids being fed drugs or being killed because of them.

    Think we're in trouble? We have gone way off topic..oops. Enjoyed the convo though, thanks.

    Let's try and steer back. How many illegals has Perry deported?
    My link before linked to what they thought Obama was going to deport. Sorry bout that. Here is a link to what Obama HAS deported.

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_illegal_immigrants_you_deported_in_2009
    400,000 in just 2009. GoBama!!!
     
  10. Lionist

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    Yikes, I think Perry gets an "F" in immigration.

    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2011/08/ten_reasons_why.php
    I have to say I agree with this one. I have seen how them fences work, or don't work. They simply cut through them.

    Seems Perry agrees with OBAMA on this one.
    Need I go on?
     
  11. Jollee

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    And what prevents them from giving you any name that comes to mind other than there own if they are criminals?


     
  12. Mac-7

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    Neither do I but why should we have to choose between too many workers for not enough jobs or illegal drugs for our children?

    Everyone who is in this country should be deported and then we will be protected from both threats.

    As for Perry he is probably soft on immigration like so many elected leaders around the country.

    All they care about are themselves and they see illegal aliens and Hispanics as potential voters.

    But the people who would elect Perry are serious about stopping illegal aliens whereas the people who elect Obama haven't got a clue.
     
  13. Lionist

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    Everyone that needs to be deport, you cannot find them all. With them coming forward because they are given a deal, it is a bit easier to find them and/or determine which ones rather not be found.

    Unemployment rates are not the fault of immigrants. We had less immigrants being deport when unemployment was not so high. Trade laws and corp greed, lower wages and less people being hired is what has caused the higher unemployment.

    Perry is more than soft on immigration. He wants to open the boarders completely.

    How does an illegal vote? I have no problem like some do in having to show ID at the voting booth.

    If a person is serious about immigration, Perry would be the last person they would vote for. Perry wants to completely open the boarders.
     
  14. Lionist

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    http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives...easons_why.php
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    1. Open Borders: Former Congressman Tom Tancredo, in a devastating article that appeared in Politico on August 11, 2011, notes that Gov. Perry gave a 2001 speech in Mexico, no less, saying he supported completely open borders, in which he called for the “free flow of individuals between these two countries who want to work and want to be an asset to our country and to Mexico.”
     
  15. Mac-7

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    We can find most of them.

    When they register in school, get stopped for a traffic ticket, apply for a job, show up at the hospital emergency room.

    With just a little effort we could find 90% of the illegal aliens and deport them.
     
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    LOL at the idea that liberals look to Obama as their messiah.
     
  17. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    A "weak" thug? LMFAO

    Your posts are vastly amusing. Keep up the good work.
     
  18. Lionist

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    Some of them, not most. They keep hidden for a reason. They worked hard and took risks to get here.
    If they are illegal they avoid at all costs anything that would get them caught.
    They don't usually apply for a job with a written paper. They go to friends, family, farmers, and ask for jobs.
    They use fake documents if needed then disappear into the 300 million population.
     
  19. Kingofwow

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    Then you seem to have missed the leaving of the Gilded Age by the Progressives so popular during the turn of the Century, may it be Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and others. While they did come from two seperate parties the change came moderated (luckily) and is basically being dismantled piece by piece in the last decade which is the real fight, the real dismantling of the "Great Contract" complains this columist; http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...done/2011/08/19/gIQA8wYiQJ_story.html?hpid=z3

    While some would say that there is no difference in parties one simply doesn't understand the American Political Spectrum. While political influences change either party from one century to the next as in the cousins Roosevelts, both progressives but influence both parties in varying decades. Yet we still are Americans and in most part believe in a free society, well some more then others! Which may lead the ignorant american or outsider to make such a foolish statement as, there is no difference.
     
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    I am a Bachmann supporter but this is disingenuous crap. Perry presided over a state that added four Reps to the US house during his tenure. That's a population increase of 4.3 million from 2000 to 2010. Now somebody tell me how the flying whiz you run a state growing like that without spending more money and investing in new infrastructure.

    http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-01.pdf
     
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    And that would completely end unemployment problems in this country.
     
  22. IrishLefty

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    Friend, they are both owned by special interests, further the American political spectrum is far to the right of other Industrialized western states and fits into a narrow spectrum. Someone in any party who calls for an end to American foreign policy and/or deems it criminal is cast as extreme. Both Republican and Democrat administrations have continued a constant foreign policy of promoting neo-liberalism abroad. At home neither party challenges the corporate right to personhood, there is no party challenging the inaccuracy of the media, both parties refuse to prosecute Bush/Cheney and both parties fail to effectively address any of the nation's problems.

    Both parties talk the talk, but few in both parties really walk the walk.
     
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    :D This made me chuckle.
     
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    Texas has a poor record on health care,has poor record on the envirenment and excels in school drop out rates. So if your goal is to put everyone on minimum wage in this country and reduce everyone to grinding poverty than Perry's your man. But you got to be a little nuts defending a candidate by exalting in the wonders of a minimum wage society???!!!???!!
     
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    It sure would help.
     

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