Special Counsel Mueller Impanels Washington Grand Jury in Russia Probe

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  1. Zorro

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    That's great!
     
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    bois darc chunk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No crime? Besides the whole Russian troll and bot army, hacking the DNC and publishing stolen information on Wikileaks, and paying for targeted ads aimed at those susceptible to propaganda in critical parts of a few states necessary to win the Electoral College...Don Jr admitted to meeting Russian assets to gain compromising information on his father's political opponent. So did others. Trump wrote the original misleading statement about the nature of the meeting. This was corroborated by Sarah Huckabee Sanders in a press conference, when she said Trump did what any father would. Then when you place those things in a timeline of events and add Manafort taking over the campaign and the sole change in the GOP platform to favor Russia, you certainly have crimes.

    I get that you have a blind eye when it comes to most things Trump, but there are crimes involved in this investigation. Nixon, himself, didn't have to actually participate in the break-in of the Watergate building. He participated in the cover-up, and that cost him his Presidency. We already know Trump participated in the cover-up of the clandestine meeting that Kushner, Manafort, and Don Jr willingly attended, despite knowing it was with Russian government operatives. Also, like Nixon and Bill Clinton, the investigation may go in other directions, like illegal money laundering and fraud, if any evidence points in that direction. The Trump "loan" of $13 Million to Manafort, who was reportedly volunteering his time to Trump's campaign, sure looks shady too. That might have something to do with the FBI raid on Manafort's home, ya know? Then there's abuse of power and obstruction of justice in firing Comey. Additionally, there was leaving Flynn in contact with classified information on national security, after Trump knew Flynn was compromised. There's just no way to positively spin that.
     
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    Don't you know that any evidence they will find is obviously fake if it incriminates the orange hope?
     
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    Right with the daily leaks you actually believe if a crime was commited it would not have been leaked already?
     
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    Still trying to figure out why Drunken Hillary lost?

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    Wow. You didn't even make it past a single sentence without making false statements. The DNC refused to hand over their server to the FBI so no we have no evidence the information given to wikileaks was hacked or was given by an insider and that's directly because the DNC refused to cooperate with the FBI. Remember Seth Rich? I'm sure its just a coincidence wikileaks offered 20k for the capture of his killer because they offer that so frequently for murders right?

    I get you have a blind eye when it comes to most things Trump but you really shouldn't parrot assumptions that have no basis in fact.
     
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    Fell free to hang you hat there if you like. I'd say that thing are progressing exactly are was expected 10 months ago in the treason investigations.
     
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    Almost like the GOP did with Clinton...Funny how that works, ain't it?
     
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    Yes i suppose in your world of confirmation bias parroting the same things daily make it factual.
     
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    Congressman Demands Mueller Open Hearing
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    "Every nominee for United States Attorney must be confirmed by the Senate, a process that brings to the forefront any concerns regarding the nominee’s ability to hold their position in a decent and impartial manner. However, as Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III and his team of lawyers investigate our very own president, we as a nation wait in the dark with very little information about those given this great authority."
     
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    If you're going to come at me and claim I said something false, then you need to bring citations to prove your stance, which you didn't and can't. The FBI has made it clear that they don't have a problem with the way the DNC server was handled. Just because Trump tweeted something distracting does not make it true. Politifact says the tweet is false.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...hn-podesta-deny-cia-and-fbi-access-dnc-serve/

    You don't have to believe anything, but apparently you've chosen to believe partisan Twitter deflecting nonsense that "no one knows" what Russia did with the DNC server. You apparently are not aware that the FBI approached the DNC to inform them they suspected a breach, along with attempted breaches of the State Department and the White House at nearly the same time. So yeah, there is some evidence of the hack, what was stolen, and what was done with it. There's also the FACT that there is a Special Counsel investigation, several Congressional investigations, and sanctions- with the most recent of which came through an almost unanimous vote by Congress and signed Trump against Russia for meddling in the election.

    As to the Seth Rich conspiracy theory, his parents have sued to get Hannity and others to stop dragging their son's name through more partisan ridiculousness. I'm going to honor their request.

    I'll let the ad hominem in your last line slide this time. Next time you come at me, bring credible, refuting citations or don't bother to reply to me. I tend to bristle when accused of spreading falsehoods, especially when it is only your opinion to counter.
     
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    And yet you claimed that it has been 'verified' that it was hacked not leaked even though the FBI never examined the server!
    Nice backstroke! From firm conclusion to 'some evidence'? What 'evidence' is that, exactly?
     
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    Hats off! :thumbsup:
     
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    Classified is not a synonym of imaginary. Use a thesaurus.
     
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    So Flynn/Manafort singing like tweety birds...........Kushner/Trump Jr......about to get Federal colonoscopies. Crooked Donnie beating desperation war drums over statements and actions taken annually by NK and Mueller & the dream team working dilligently, (no hiding on the golf course) for the American taxpayer. Don't let life pass you by Trump supporters.
     
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    This is all a political soap opera that serves no purpose beyond providing liberals a means of escape. Just keep binging on the MSM mini series while Trump pushes his agenda.
     
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    Then feel free to whine to Mueller and the GOP Congress.
     
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    I'ts more of a re run than a mini series .
    Just sayin.
    Let the lefties pay for cable news and stupid programs.
    Let them pay for their student loans in gender studies and political science too.
     
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    They are still trying to figure out what hit them on Election Night!

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    LOL!
     
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    I quoted where you did. What more proof do you require than your own words?

    No crime? Besides the whole, Russian troll and bot army, hacking the DNC and publishing stolen information on Wikileaks

    You want me to prove what? That you have no evidence? Since when do I have to provide evidence for your unsupported charge? Do you even hear yourself right now?

    Do you need another theory other than your tin foil hat Russian conspriacy that has 3 separate investigations for over a year and still no evidence to prove it despite your claim?

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/bom...-dnc-hack-was-actually-a-leak-and-inside-job/

    See Bois this is what happens when you claim a crime has been committed but fail miserably to prove your claim or admit you can't.

    Please don't tell me you buy that. Its the very reason Comey was so incompetent. How do you not investigate a server that was allegedly hacked as the FBI and let the DNC refuse to let you see it as part of a cirminal investigation?

    What planet does that make sense to you on?

    Let's make this very simple because your dancing is tiresome. Do you have solid evidence that the DNC was hacked by the Russians and proof the Russians were the only source for Wikileaks?

    This was your claim. Your words.

    We both know the answer but let's see if you are brave enough to admit it.
     
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    They are still in the deep shock that descended on them at about 9pm on Nov 8!

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    It really is pathetic. They scream a crime has been committed claiming the Russians have to be the source for the wikileaks but have ZERO evidence despite 3 separate investigations for over a year still having no evidence to back up that tin foil hat conspiracy and instead of admitting they don't have the evidence they attack Trump. Laughable and child like debate skills.
     
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    Here's the deal. They know its bull ****.

    When they lose, they always claim they were robbed.

    Nixon, they claimed it was "The Southern Strategy".
    Reagan, claimed he had a secret deal with the Iranians.
    Papa Bush, claimed mean old Lee Atwater was too mean!
    Dubya, blamed chads
    Trump, blamed the Russians.

    Is it working for them? Well the election before 1968 was 1966.

    SCOTUS, not a single conservative on the Court, now we have 4-5 out of nine.

    LBJ was President, now Trump is.
    Herbert Humphrey was Veep, now Pence is.

    The Senate was 67-33 Democrat
    The House was 295-140 Democrat
    Governors were 33-17 Democrat
    State Legislatures 23-16 Democrat

    So while they continue this strategy, how do you think its working for them? It clearly is a losing strategy, but I beginning to think they are too dumb to think up a new one. I mean my goodness, look at their leaders!

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    Holy Crap! Would you trade places with them?

    I've seen burning dumpsters in better shape than today's Democrat Party!
     
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    It is fun to expose it :)
     
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