Stop trying to prove/disprove God. Try another question instead.

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  1. dcaddy

    dcaddy New Member

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    Bertrand Russell:
    When asked what he would do if he were to come face to face with God after he died, he replied, "Sir, why did you take such pains to hide yourself?"

    Clearly, God is not obvious. Otherwise the "Religion" section of this forum wouldn't exist. We would all be in happy agreement and there would be little or nothing to discuss.

    So. Why hide yourself?
     
  2. Bishadi

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    man hides its eyes

    Every want a life ever dreams of is right here with both feet on the ground.

    touch the earth and meet 'god' (your creator)

    god aint hiding, people are

    ie.... the day mankind began to believe it wass separate from 'mother nature' is the day they began to know 'hell'
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Because a personal god probably does not exist.
     
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    Because if God appeared, it would change life on Earth. It would contaminate the experiment... people wouldn't behave normally anymore knowing God is here.
     
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    What, pray tell, does "normally" mean? For that matter, what does "abnormal" really mean? "Normality", as I see it, is nothing more than a man-made system of measure where one person or group of persons are compared to that of another person or group of persons. The question that remains is this: Which person or group of persons is correct? Then one must consider: what is "normal" for mankind, in the mind of God?
     
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    Many religious people claim to know God and at the same time think they are above the rest of "Mother Nature". They think they are special.

    For me the fact (or illusion) the God hides himself is one of the best reasons to doubt His exixtence. To belive in God, you are now forced to make excuses to explain why he hides. When people start making excuses it raises questions about whether or not what we are talking about is true.
     
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    He hides to test your religious strength. Faith is believing in something without proof or based on spiritual reasons. You would not need faith if there was proof of God.
     
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    I find it ultimately strange that you should resort to making declarations that you KNOW what particular people and a specific group of people are 'thinking'. Tell me. What am I thinking right now?
     
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    He said nothing of the kind. You did, then argued against what you said. There's a name for that.
     
  10. Incorporeal

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    I really don't know how you could have climbed the ladder to the rank of Colnel when you are having so many problems reading.

    There is also a name for the act that you just committed.
     
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    Seriously? Just let people be and do as they please. If it doesn't physically hurt someone, you should have the mental and spiritual faith to be undeterred and refer them to your God through prayer. I don't follow religion, it is to hocus pocus for me. I also don't acknowledge any one God. Try this on for size, be a better person and realize that you as a person create evil. When you harm and belittle others, you are being evil. Even the bible tells you Satan is just there to tempt you to do evil, that means that man creates and does the evil. Not any force. I know for those who are heavy into their beliefs it is much more than that, for me however, and only me in this post, that suffices. When you are one with yourself and truly care about others, your spirit is in the right place. If you choose to associate that with Christ, that is up to you. But it is not up to you to belittle others and tell them they are wrong for how they practice. Let them be, and you be you on your own. Stop worrying about others.
     
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    Good advice. If everyone were to adhere to your form of wisdom, then there would be no Atheists on this Religious forum.

     
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    You have never encountered a person that thinks animals are just animals. But people... those aren't animals. People are somehow above that.

    My best friend doesn't consider a human as an animal for example.

    I never said I knew what you are thinking. I don't need to know what you are thinking for the above statement to be the case.
     
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    If everyone did that, it would be a pretty boring forum wouldn't you say?
     
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    You are now presuming to KNOW what I have encountered in my life. Tell me more about the things that I have not encountered.. go ahead and try to override my own experience with what you think my experience is. I do believe that it has passed your bedtime... you seem to be dreaming now.


    Are you saying that people are not a part of the animal kingdom? Or What are you trying to say?

    Then your friend is uneducated.

    When you make a statement which says in relevant part "..you think.." or "...they think.." you are declaring that you know what I or they think.

    "Many religious people claim to know God and at the same time think they are above the rest of "Mother Nature". They think they are special." In this particular case, you spoke about what 'they think' "they" being "religious people"... well I am one of the 'religious people' therefore, you were also speaking about me.
     
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    i It was a question, I forgot the ? . I'm surprised you didn't gather that from the context...

    ii. No, I was continuing the dialog from i

    iii. Then so are many or your religious peers

    iv. Your exaggerating, twisting and putting words in my mouth. If your so right, why don't you debate the substance rather then dwell on trivial things like the use of the word "they".
     
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    Gee, I guess even you pseudo-scientists make mistakes like the real scientists.

    Then you ought to concentrate on forming a better writing style.

    As are practically every sector of the population... including scientists... they are not educated in many differing fields of endeavor.

    iv. Your exaggerating, twisting and putting words in my mouth. If your so right, why don't you debate the substance rather then dwell on trivial things like the use of the word "they".[/QUOTE]

    Not possible. I am here, you are there, and I could not put words in your mouth even if we were in the same room together. Why don't you discuss the substance rather than dwell on things like those that you cannot explain... such as religion and God.
     
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    But I thought millions of people do KNOW God is here ?
     
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    what do you think religious wingnuts and specifically the abrahamic sects, have done to mankind? the book of Genesis enabled morons to believe god made nature for man.

    not if you get real. ie... nature is the boss

    i already shared, HE (it) aint hiding; people do


    i aint making an excuse. You are associated with nature for your whole life.

    no one needs a dude on a thrown with lighning bolts in his hand.
     
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    very little
     
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    judging a liar is what mankind is capable of.

    i expect people to slap liars around until they either grow up, or are dead.

    no one has a right to mislead, by any god
    ie.... mankind created the 'gods' of beliefs

    and that 'evil' is opposite of live

    mankind created the devil because it never lived

    exactly. And no one has a requirement to lie by any god
    what is christ?

    bull................

    cain and abel.....

    "WE" are our brothers keeper!

    bull............... lying is for dying.

    misleading people is what is not allowed by any god

    and of course to human beings too!
     
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    people are life within existence, just like animals. The difference is the consciousness (capability of knowing the self and articulate it)

    ie... mass (the life of) comprehending is exists
    tell him/her how stupid that is

    each breath, eat, sleep and live
     

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