STUNNER: Joe Manchin Says He Will NOT Support Biden’s Multi-Trillion Dollar Spending Plan As It Stan

Given my past experiences with highway building and bridge building and development, I have spoken strongly it is states and cities in charge of building roads and bridges. The feds part only kicks in when roads cross borders.
Highspeed internet is supplied by many companies such as T Mobile and Biden needs to keep his fingers off of that.

Feds never just donate money, they create rules and enforce rules. This is why Democrats are primarily worse than Republicans since they have close to 90 years focused on making laws and regulation while republicans act to free the public.

People understand the parties wrongly so they make errors in picking the party to support.
For instance currently Democrats are loaded for bear to make a lot more laws and control over things they spend money on.
Imagine if you will you locate a safe in your uncles home. And he does want the money to stay put. And you enter his home to take his money and use it for things you feel will keep you in power. So you steal his money to donate 90 percent of it to some church. He is the hero of the church and not your uncle.
Voters are fooled by Democrats give away money that is not their money.

 

The GOP has more moderates in the house and the senate than democrats do.

 

I agree on both points. I was hoping to here some thoughts from those that disagree. Is there an argument for the federal government to be doing this? Are their examples of states that need federal $? Was is the state and local governments not able to provide this?

 

Just Say No, Joe.

MANCHIN SHOULD JUST SAY NO TO BIDEN BILL: West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin looks at the $1.75 trillion “reduced” Biden Build Back Better and sees a pile of “shell games, budget gimmicks that make the real cost of the so-called $1.75 trillion bill estimated to be almost twice that amount, if the full time is run out, if you extended it permanently. And that we haven’t even spoken about. This is a recipe for economic crisis.”

Manchin should bring this charade to a close.

 

So far, he’s standing strong.

 

The voters just stiffened his spine even further. Dems should run him for President, Sinema as his VP

 

They should but they never would.

 

He's been fairly clear about what changes are necessary to get his support, since April. Dems never negotiated in good faith, to them "negotiation" is arranging for their opponents surrender. Well, to my surprise, it appears that he is not going to surrender this year. So Dems again have a choice, do they negotiate enough to pick up enough votes to get to half of the Senate or do they yell scream and wail little spoiled little children who cannot bear to think that they cannot pass a 3rd Trillion Plus bill in a matter of months with inflation screaming at levels higher than most Americans have seen in their entire life times?

We'll see.

Joe Manchin Just Killed the Build Back Better Act.

Joe Manchin stunned at Dems refusal to come to sensible terms.

He thought his party would negotiate honestly.​

After months of negotiations it became clear that Dems were not negotiating in good faith. "Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) declared on Sunday that there’s no way he can support Joe Biden’s big government socialist agenda, known as the Build Back Better Act."

He just can't do it. Inflation is already raging and he feels that big programs should have the broad support of the American People.

At some point one must recognise that their interlocutor isn't really negotiating, they are awaiting your surrender, and when you have no intention of surrender, rather, you are pursuing a good faith compromise, there comes a moment when that must be clearly communicated.[/quote]
CNN Analyst Fool Says Manchin Should Leave the Democrat Party. Manchin has already made that offer, if that's what they want.

 

Funny how not spending money we don't have, when we are Trillions of dollars in debt and facing a major inflation problem, is such an outrage to liberals.

Your post and ethnic slur demonstrates that liberals really loath blue collar white people and constantly make them targets of ethnic slurs and pejoratives. Funny how you people claim to deplore the sort of slurs you people use on a regular basis. You also loath the Constitution. When our Government works like it was designed to work you claim it is broken.

West VA is a great State. Liberals are streaming here from MD and VA to escape liberalism.

 

There you go with the racist slander and unsound reasoning again. Do not underestimate the message that these two manifestations are often linked.

The 49 Democrats that are insisting this get passed over the objections of the majority of the 100 member house are the folks attempting minority rule.

Fake news. The Senate is made up of members of the 50 states. Dems could have both Senators of any State where they held the majority, however, Dems are not the majority party. They only hold the majority in 18 of 50 states and the only reason for the imbalance is the ridiculously large state of CA. Remove that state and the remaining 17 states only have 29% of the population, yet 34% of the Senate seats, and issue about which you have said squat.

Remove NY and now 16 Democrat states have 32% of the Senate seats yet, only 23% of the population, and again no protests from you over this.

That said, I would be very agreeable to more permissive arrangements for like-minded Counties'' joining together to form new states, or contiguous counties, that wish to, joining adjoining states. Breaking up some of these massive states would improve Senate representation, which I also favor.

If I'd have known that your viewpoint was this infected with bigotry, I would have never so thoughtfully engaged it. My experience is that when a mind is infected with hatred, that it ceases to function effectively. The good news is that such a condition is reversible.

Again, 49 simply is not a majority of a 100. There is no rational explanation for your inability to grasp that.

When you are pointing a finger at others, 3 fingers are pointing back at you.

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Two Polls Show Growing Fear That Biden’s Spending Will Make Inflation Worse.

Never Underestimate Joe's Ability To **** Things Up ~ Barack Obama​

You lost Independents.

More Money without More Productivity Means More Inflation and it's already robbing Americans of real income.

State Breakdown here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partisan_Voting_Index#By_state
State Populations here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

 

The Brandon administration is crumbling.

 

Hah, you're right, of course, but the reality is that none of them know what's in it, either. It's another one of those 5,000 page monstrosity ever ending borrow and spend and spend and spend, that pretty much changes every day, and that not a single person, not even the ones who "wrote" it, knows what's in it. You know, another "We gotta pass it to see what's in it" situations.

 

You can strike through the word "almost". Best (political) news for the American people in months! Plus, it's making "the squad" whine and cry like children which makes it even sweeter. And Biden's mouthpiece is complaining about him saying he would "negotiate in good faith" as if that means he'll piss and moan for a bit, and then vote for it anyway.

 

Post aged poorly.

 

CNN Analyst Fool Says Manchin Should Leave the Democrat Party. Manchin has already made that offer, if that's what they want.[/QUOTE]

Given the tens of millions of people that scumbag Manchin is screwing over by acting like a pompous jerk, it is amazing that no one seems upset enough to start boiling the tar and gathering the feathers.

 

Sen. Manchin is the last of the blue dog democrat's, I'm not surprise he will vote no on Biden's BBB bill?!! Manchin is also taking money coal mining lobby too?!!

 

You say "taking money from the coal mining lobby" like that is some terrible thing. You do realize that Manchin represents an energy producing State? Or maybe you think the residents of South West WV should just "learn to code" as Biden suggested they do and compete with all of the H-1B coders he is bringing in from India.

Gee. I wonder if the Biden learn to code spiel had anything to do with West VA voters asking Manchin to not support the Biden agenda.

 

I think you misunderstand how the people of West Virginia feel.

I think Manchin's attitude is the same as 65% of the people in West Virginia whom he is representing. These people would love some help, but don't have patience for vast sums of money being wasted on socially progressive feel-good shenanigans.

 

Careful now, you sound like you're advocating for a coup

 

And they should be opposed to that. For that matter, so should the dems, because it's individual people's job to pay their own damn bills. What we're already paying for is far, far, far too much, we don't need to add daycare (and the half dozen or so other new things in the bill) to that list.

 

Have the Dems ever mentioned that their "Build Back Better" act has major immigration provisions including chain migration. Maybe someone can explain how liberals think flooding the country with cheap labor and uneducated/unskilled immigrants will help the little people? Cause we all know the Democrats are for the little people and the Republicans are for the rich. Right?

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN11811

 

I dont get why people even vote for it then
If that was me it would be a automatic no unles i know what it is

 

Stop being so logical.

 

I was thinking about how some people flip out over what I consider to be minor nuisances but when it comes to major corruption like Manchin is pulling, no one seems to care. Imagine the tens of millions of people and the various companies he is hurting by being a clown. You would think that his office would be flooded with protesters, like the 1-6 group.

 

All bills are available for reading on the Congress.gov web site. =https://www.congress.gov/116/crec/2020/03/27/CREC-2020-03-27.pdf

The Build Back Better Act is H.R. 5376. = https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5376/text

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