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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    lol!! You can't find one measure by which that could possibly be considered true.
     
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    The problem started before America was a country.

    Our founders very clearly knew that and wrote our founding documents with an end to racism and white supremacy in mind.

    We just haven't figured out how to live up to the principles our founders documented.
     
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    Yes, you lose rights when you join the military.

    But, that's not the issue here.

    The issue is one of character.

    The milirary does not teach that character is something that can be shucked like a dirty pair of pants when you enter the public space.

    And, your attempts to dodge are ridiculous. The issue was NEVER what you do IN the military.

    It's who you are as a person - as an American citizen.

    And, the military absolutely does not teach that you are free to ignore the lives and wellbeing of those around you - whether the enemy is killing with guns or viruses.

    When you shuck your honor, THAT is a problem.
     
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    It's VERY well known and very very true. All you have to do is check, if you're unsure. Even white racists know it's true, and they have every reason to want it to be untrue.

    I'm actually shocked that you don't know about this, to be honest. It makes me wonder why you need white people to be in the lead so badly.
     
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    You wrote so proudly how you brave, macho tough guys will not wear a mask once of base.
    As the heroic commander in chief showed us when he returned to WH from the hospital.

    Sorry bud you failed muster.

    Sure I am not a soldier any more.

    But in my outfit you would have not lasted a second, with your attitude.

    Explain to me which jobs in the Army can not be done with a mask ?
     
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    With Obama being a black person it real hit home for some white folks.
    A Black person as president in the White House, really ?
    Don't you know why it is called the White House ?

    Some of the nice things I heard, you do not want to know the not so nice.

    It was a shock for the far right and than the statistics came up, which correctly showed that the so called White would become a minority.

    An other tough pill for the far right to swallow, ever looked at the back ground of the CEOs of bioNtech and Pfizer, the one with the first approved C19 vaccine in the West?

    I am a young cynical bastard, but I very much enjoy that.
    Don't you ?
     
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    Sorry General. I don't believe for a second that you signed the dotted line with how scared you are of a virus with this low of a mortality rate over anything else.

    Nice try :)
     
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    Oh sorry, to your last question:
    Q1 and Q2 silent drills- breaching and and urban planning tactics require clear OR. There are masks the military has that can deliver but most of it sounds static with normal masks. In fact, there were two problems maintaining them from distances of over 1000 meters with masks on. It sounds like you're in a bubble.

    How important are coms in combat? You should know! You were a war hero!
     
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    I was a Sergeant, Gunny, SO.
    I am not scared of the virus. I just use common sense, at my age group the sucker could have serious consequences, could be deadly, or ruin the rest of my live with its side effects.
    Prudent, because a vaccine is on its way.
    That's why I put a kisser sock and a faceshield on at work or in a store. Its a pain in the ars, but sorry no big deal.
    What is 1 year, were one restricts one self, does what is prudent and might help others.
    Nothing, that's what I learned 47 years ago, putting my name on the dotted line and than spent years in one of the toughest outfit we had.

    That's why I do not understand you bragging, taking your mask of the moment you leave base, I am tough, macho, masks are for sissies.

    Its like doing a training mission, do you put your helmet on, the bullet prove vest, take your rifle and so on. No body will shoot at you, with life ammo, so why put all that crap on you and run around with a useless weapon. Only sissies who are afraid would do that.

    Are you a sissy, doing that ? Afraid of what ?
     
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    If you run around the boonies, outdoors, why should you put a mask on. I don't.
    When we work on the farm, we do not have masks on, we are respectful and keep a few feet more distance, 3-4 feet is plenty outdoors.
    If we have to work closer, well we put a kisser sock on, like wrenching on a machine. Its just prudent.
    Yes com is very important today, wish we had that tech.
    Handsignals.
    Always admired the guy who had to lug around the com, heavy, on top of the other crap.
    We did not have any com, to small a group, 8. But than probably good any none satellite com can be triangled

    I am not a war hero, never said so, just a soldier, run of the mill.
     
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    Coms today are an ABSOLUTE MUST. It's why the hearing tests are so crucial for 11b's and 11c's. This may come as a shock to you, but when there are loud noises in the background (aka a training battlefield- let alone a real one) and the team's are trying to stay in constant contact but have muffled voices...it makes it even harder to accomplish the mission. Men deploying aren't training to combat a virus, we train them for combat and defense operations militarily. Big shocker, right?

    Leave the medical stuff to the doctors. You should know that. You were "a soldier".
     
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    Lol no one in our unit is afraid of a virus. We have bigger fish to fry. We train in loud environments and with masks they tried to make us wear, it muffled them even worse. It made combat operations (sim ops) even more difficult. What are you going to focus on more in combat? A virus, or the guy with the gun shooting at your squadmates?

    Yea, we're keeping coms running and not worrying about masks.

    What are you afraid of, exactly?
     
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    What has this got to do with you thinking that you are so brave (mask wearers are snowflakes) because you don't wear a mask off duty? Doesn't the military teach you to reduce risks? A soldier who starts showing symptoms on the field is a risk to the success of an operation. Or are you one of those that think masks do not reduce risk of infection?
     
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    I know of a recent case of a young Marine home visiting his parents. They attended a public event in West Palm Beach and the young man was concerned about being caught on any of the millions of cameras out and about these days without a mask on, worried that such a picture of him not wearing a mask might somehow get back to his unit. Not sure of the final outcome, but he was concerned.
     
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    'Scuses ain't splaining...
     
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    ....and....sorry....why did the wee lad have a problem...?
     
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    Because if he catches it, because he is behaving stupid and than goes back to his unit and spread it, he might loose his job, or might get flagged when it comes to promotion time.
     
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    Him and his buddies think they are the big fish. They are not the big fish. They are just running around the boonies playing war.
    Nothing wrong with that needs to be done, for the moment they actually go to war.
    The Big Fish are at the present the Docs and nurses in our hospital, having to deal with the victims of Covid, the little virus.
    A very tough and dangerous job in a pandemic.
    Maybe that's the problem, they are not anymore number 1 on the heroes list.

    They can not even get the idea, that wearing a kisser sock, is a sign of solidarity to those health soldiers, who wear a mask and a shield for 12 or 24 or 36 hours.
    They must be extreme snowflakes.
    Its just a little virus.
    What are they afraid of?
     
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    ...what if the place he was in didn't require the wearing of masks...? I was just curious about of the odds of this lad being seen in a place where there are millions of people with millions of cameras and someone recognising him out of billions of potential images and by someone who gives a flying phuck what he was wearing....?? I'm guessing that the marines may not be a long term career option for such an anxious person?
     
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    You see this shows a serious problem. Fear is rather healthy, it allows you to survive, military training understands that. If you have to go into combat and you are not afraid, than you are a problem, because you will behave stupid and endanger your unit.
    Not being afraid of this little virus and behaving accordingly and maybe bringing it back to your unit, is the same.
    My guess, you have jet to go into combat and most of the guys around you.
    I hope you will never have to do it.
    Its very scary, humbling, you will never forget that lead weight in your belly, every time.
    You have to do it, makes you a humble man, if your head is set right, for the rest of your live.

    Now I let you go so you can catch a bigger fish
     
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    Its the phucking social media. Everything and everybody get filmed or picture taken of.
    Especially if it is some kind of event.
    CDC guide lines.
    If he brings it to his unite, he is phucked.
     
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    Really, what state might that be?
     
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    Nebraska.
     
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    Nebraska has been scoring poorly on corvid prevention for a while now. That being said, it's still has been increasing rapidly since Oct.
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