Suddenly: a 34% Increase in Boys Ages 13-29 Getting HIV In Last 7 Years

I had another thread where I posted these statistics and a poll. The moderators chopped it up, tagged the poll onto this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...predator-commemorative-excerises-schools.html

...without so much as a mention or a notice.

So here we are again. And the issue of increased teen deaths from HIV is not going to go away just because one of your moderators "doctored" my threads...

Next time I'd like a notice. The poll is reposted for those to continue voting on in combination with the old poll that as of the doctoring date by moderators, was showing that 24 people voted. 12 of them [50%] voted that they thought normalizing gayness was the cause. 3 [12.5%] thought it was from a new trend in teen recklessness. 3 [12.5%] thought teens always have been bad at using condoms. 0 [0%] thought it was from a sudden genetic surge in gay boys. And 3 [12.5%] said it was "other" explained in their post.

You can add the polls current results to those last results to get an accurate reading. And I'd like some notice or discussion of why my threads are being butchered in the future. I suspect it's because one or two of the moderators here were not happy with what the poll results were showing.

The grim fact is that in just the last 7 years, the same years that gay marriage has coincidentally [or not] been getting passed, this young age group that had been plodding along in statistics with HIV with the older group at a steady rate took a sudden and stunning leap upwards.

This is important news and lives could be saved in discussing it. Please do not bury the truth. You could actually be killing youngsters by doing so.

 

Parent/teacher/school lesson to young kids #1 "Never stick anything in your ears, eyes, nose or anus. There is no purpose to do so. If you do you can cripple or kill yourself".

End of lesson.

 

it's probably partly due to the glorification of gay sex to the point that the men engaging in gay sex think they cannot catch HIV

 

No, the increase is specifically in young boys ages 13-29 and not the older crew. This suggests an influence in formative years. What was going on at the time this trend shot up so drastically? Gay media blitz and promotion of sodomy as "normal" via gay marriage passing in several states.

Monkey see, monkey do. It's the most reliable observable phenomenon in homo sapiens and all primate species...

 

And that of course explains why there is also a big increase in STDs in all teenagers....

Its all the gays fault.....lol

 

Yep- the same influence that is creating a big increase in STD's among all teenagers.

Lets review:
Big increase in homosexual young men getting HIV
Big increase in all young men and women getting STD's.

Either would be explained by a failure by all young people to use condoms.

And any solution that would reduce the spread of all STD's in young people would reduce the spread of HIV to all people.

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and once again- what is with calling a 29 year old man a boy?

 

Lets see what the study actually says about why this has happened:
"Early age at sexual initiation; unprotected sex; older sex
partners."

Nowhere does it say "because of gays in the media and gay marriage."

Young people of all orientations are having sex earlier than before, and they are having unprotected sex. It makes sense that gay men have higher rates, because anal sex is more likely to spread the infection and men are generally more promiscuous. Rates among homosexual men have always been higher...this is nothing new. But rates are going up for everyone in that age group regardless of orientation, so to claim it is all about gay marriage is silly.

Gays will have unprotected sex regardless of whether marriage is legal...many people say they wont have sex because they want to wait until marriage. With no marriage option, gays have nothing to wait for, so they will have more sex. I don't see how a formal institution that promotes sexual relationships with one person (thus reducing HIV risks) someone increases sexual activity with multiple partners (the opposite of marriage).

 

I dont think this group of people got the aids/safe sex education that people over 30 right now got. If you went to school in the 90s it really got beat in to your head, and aids talk was everywhere. now its like some forgotten disease

 

Actually the "big increase" is in young people being DIAGNOSED with HIV.

The increase in testing that occurred in that same time period, along with the at risk young people being more willing to face reality and/or require testing from sex partners easily accounts for this "increase" in HIV cases.

NOW, there is a 20 minute test! ANYONE can check for HIV on the spot while they make out for $40 or less.

God has blessed anal sex through technology.

 

Lets read some more of what the CDC says:

Male-to- male sex. CDC data have shown that young gay, bisexual, and other MSM, especially young African American and
young Latino MSM, have high rates of new HIV infections. Another CDC study showed that young MSM and minority MSM
were more likely to be unaware of their HIV infection, a situation that puts their health and the health of their partners at risk.

Young MSM may be at risk because they have not always been reached by effective HIV interventions or preventioneducation

—especially because some sex education programs exclude information about sexual orientation.

A CDC study of MSM in 15 cities found that 80% had not been reached in the past year by HIV interventions known to be most effective.

Young MSM may also have increased risk factors for HIV (such as risky sexual behaviors) due to isolation and lack of support.

So the CDC says 'isolation and lack of support' may be a factor.

Silhouette says that recognition and giving homosexual youth support is the cause of the increase in HIV.

Who to believe- the CDC or Silhouette?


ponder....ponder....ponder.....

I think

 

Lack of Awareness

Research has shown that a large proportion of young people are not concerned about becoming infected with HIV.

This lack of awareness can translate into not taking measures that could protect their health.

Abstaining from sex and drug use is the most effective way to avoid HIV infection, but adolescents need accurate, age appropriate information about HIV and AIDS, how to reduce or eliminate risk factors, how to talk with a potential partner about risk factors and how to negotiate safer sex, where to get tested for HIV, and how to use a condom correctly.

Parents
also need to reinforce health messages, including how to protect oneself from HIV infection.
Apparently the CDC thinks teens need more education to prevent HIV than someone saying "Don't stick it in the butt!"

 

That stuff hasn't changed. And when you say "people", remember there are two groups within the MSM [males having sex with males] subgroup, older and younger males. This sudden rise in the younger group is not a reflection of sudden irresponsibility in the young. The young are consistently irresponsible when it comes to sex.

The sudden increase therefore has to be explained by another factor Jeff. Try again.

 

Its due to the fact that normal Health Services that fihght plagues and STD diseases are hamstrung by the Gay Lobbies which strickly enforce the right to remain secret and not disclose recent sex partners BUT still qualify fir Free Drugs and Free medical services from he Government.

Contingent upon revealing the names of recent sex partners so the vector crews can fight STD, treatment has always followed.
But Gay Lbbly is maintaining a secrecy which will double HIV/AIDS every seven years if the past 21 years are any evidence for such a trend.




Doubling down is a killer, whether at the Casino or with AIDS in America:

1) 2001 = 1 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

2) 2008 = 2 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

3) 2015 = 4 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

4) 2022 = 8 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

5) 2029 = 16 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

6) 2036 = 32 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

7) 2042 = 64 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

2049 = 128 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

9) 2056 = 256 million HIV/AIDS Carriers

(Tattoo all infected Carriers, now, while their numbers are small and it is still possible, or else.)

 

Its simply mathematics.

The Rule of 72 says that a doubling of the "principle" will occur, (whether the number of AIDS infected people or your present Bank account), when the Rate (of infection) is divided into 72,...

Free Drugs without helping America fight this disease is building up a whole army of sexually active Carriers who now live longer because of the help society grants to them.
This is counter productive for the Health of the nation.

At the very least, every infected AIDS/HIV Carrier ought carry a Tattooed Warning Label (perhaps around the Butt or the Belly Button).

 

Once again- the same factor that is causing an increase in STD's in all young people is the most likely the same cause as what is behind in a similar increase in HIV STD in young MSM.

That seems more likely to me an explanation rather than blaming it on gay marriage and on men hugging each other in Disneyland like you do.

 

It's important to find the causal agent, the specific one, when a sudden sharp increase in an epidemic occurs. The demographic is boys ages 13-29 and the occurance is within the same time span as gay marriage being forced through a few state legislatures.

Another variable is that we know youngsters "ape" trends. Homo sapiens and other primate species do this as an adaptive technique to fit in their social groups.

Since youngsters are now and always have been irresponsible with using condoms and the rise in teen HIV is cited as being from sex between males, specifically sodomy [anal sex] we know that lack of using condoms cannot be the variable responsible, nor is it shared needles.

Now do the math...

 

Just like the Nazi's required Homosexuals to wear special badges to identify them to everyone.....

What a blast from the past.

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We agree Jeff, the strawman is extreme, but will not derail the topic; which is....

finding the variable for the sudden increase in boys ages 13-29 getting HIV within the recent time span this explosion in the epidemic in this demographic has occured [the last 7 years]....

Think...what what what has happened in the last 7 years that might account for it.

 

Yep...

That bad reason for identifying a class of people is the ONLY argument that is raised against the GOOD reason for such identification.

We quarantine people with TB, but not allowing them the freedom of just a warning Tattoo.

What does it matter if the Tattoo is remotely placed so that only another homosexual can inform himself before getting infected?
Why would the right of the Carrier to remain secretly infected and yet sexually engaged with another Gays have more merit than the Tattoo?

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...ng-rise-in-hiv-infections-among-young-people/

Despite the publicity surrounding global efforts to raise awareness about the disease, like World AIDS Day, on Dec. 1, most young people surveyed said they “rarely” or “never” saw or read coverage about HIV in the past year, although a majority reported learning about the disease in school. Young gay or bisexual minority men, the group most likely to become infected, were the least likely to say they had received sex education in school.

But what’s taught in school sex-education programs is often decided on the local level. As we reported in ENDGAME: AIDS in Black America, most states teach only abstinence for HIV prevention, which leaves little for the roughly 50 percent of high school kids that the CDC estimates are already sexually active.

 

I say the "Variable" s the secret body of Carriers which have immunity and impunity to pass this disease on to others, while we pay for the Drugs they need to so do:



Confidentiality



Strict confidentiality is required. No one who has knowledge about the test results of a person's HIV status has the right to disclose this information. Results may be given to the person tested or the legally authorized representative.

Legal release includes:

A specific Release when the test subject, in writing specifically authorizes the release of his/her HIV status to a third party payer or certain named person.

A prior written authorization to honor a general release that is signed at the time the test is done.

The Omnibus AIDS Act limits access to HIV test results to those taking care of the individual and those who have to have a need to know. The act allows for a specific disclosure permitted by statute or administrative rule in the following situations:

1. To healthcare providers involved in the treatment and care of the test subject and in the course of having to consult with other healthcare professionals/facilities to determine treatment or diagnosis.

2. A healthcare provider involved in the delivery of a child may note the mother's HIV status in the newborn's medical record.

3. To the Department of Health to comply with reporting rules.

4. To authorized authorities when reporting child abuse.

5. To those adults who are responsible for a child who is placed in foster care or is for adoption.

6. To those facilities and providers engaged in the transfer of body parts and tissues.

7. To employees of community based care programs or residential facilities for developmentally disabled individuals when they are directly involved in the care, control, or custody of the resident.

8. With authorized epidemiologic or medical researchers.

9. For a test on a hospitalized infant in order to provide the appropriate care when the parent cannot be located to provide consent.

The Omnibus AIDS Act prohibits the release of a medical record with an HIV test result in response to a subpoena. There must be a court order, signed by a judge.

The Omnibus Act provides that if the healthcare practitioner, including doctors, nurses, social workers psychologists, mental health counselors, and others find it necessary to notify a partner of the client’s HIV status the practitioner must adhere to a protocol established by the Department of Health. Once this protocol is followed the practitioner is immune from civil and criminal liability.

The Protocol is as follows:

1. Only the client can identify the third party.

2. The healthcare practitioner must encourage the client to notify his/her partner or use the Department of Health’s partner notification program.

3. If the client refuses, the practitioner advises the client that they are going to notify the partner.

4. The preceding must be documented without the name of the third party.

 

Why are ALL std infection rates going up in ALL people in the same age group regardless of sexual orientation?

 

Think.....I think that its the same variable that has seen an increase in all STD's in young people during the same period of time.

You think its gay marriage and men hugging in Disneyland.

 

Health officials and AIDS workers attribute the rising infection rate to numerous factors: lack of education,; unsafe sex practices, fewer people getting tested, less access to the healthcare system for some, and the stigma homosexuality still has in the minority community


Young people also must be made to understand the responsibilities and perils of their sexual practices. They need to know the biology and physiology of human relations, but also the risks. This kind of education should start at home, and schools cover it in health, biology and other classes. There also are other opportunities, such as through churches, community centers and other activities, to increase their understanding.

Some experts say not enough is being done. CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden said, "It is astonishing, the level of ignorance about basic physiology among middle school and high school students."

Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/11/29/4448838/rising-hiv-infection-rate-among.html#storylink=cpy
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/11/29/4448838/rising-hiv-infection-rate-among.html#storylink=cpy