Suspect in Paul Pelosi attack was in U.S. illegally, DHS says

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If an illegal commits a crime and isn’t caught then how would anyone know an illegal committed it?
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Estimates can be made based on the ones we do catch, like everything else
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You are indeed advocating that, you just don't realize it. I just posted the stats saying undocumented aliens are neither violent nor criminals and generally aren't victimizing anyone. For the most part, WE'RE victimizing THEM.
     
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    You may want to ask ICE that question when it was pretty much open season on illegals during the Trump administration. They arrested an EWI who has been here for 20 years and his only crime is one EWI. They knew where he lived, where he was, etc. He was in the news as a nudist activist.

    You really can't blame Biden for this. You guys never got him and he was one of the easy ones to find.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have never advocated for deporting anyone who is law-abiding and non-violent. But you go tell Paul Pelosi about how that illegal immigrant that smashed him in the head with a hammer is really non-violent. He SHOULD have been incarcerated and/or deported many years ago, as should EVERY violent criminal who is in this country illegally, victimizing our peaceable society. Why can't you understand that those illegal aliens who commit crimes should be deported and/or incarcerated?

    You didn't answer my strawman, but I answered yours. I'll give you another try: Why do you insist on subjecting our citizens to the victimization of violent criminals who should not have been allowed to remain in the county at all?
     
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  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not believing that for a second. If a car is stolen and you never catch the thief, who gets blamed, an illegal or a citizen? Think of all the drug and human trafficking crimes committed by illegals who rarely get caught. All those fentanyl pills are being delivered into this country by someone. Add in all the kidnappings in Phoenix.

    From Huff and Puff. Who do you think is committing all these crimes, Canadians?


    The Kidnapping Capital of America and a Thriving Drug Trade
    Regardless of whether or not it can be considered the Kidnapping Capital of the U.S.A., Phoenix has become a hub for illicit activity, with the state serving as the largest drug gateway into America.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-kidnapping-capital-of_b_6048078
     
  7. Polydectes

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    I think once we look past the tribalism regarding this issue, we'll find out no one really cares.

    When it comes down to it it's just a home invasion and the only reason we're hearing about it is because the victim is married to a house representative.

    If she was any other schmo no one would give a rat's ass.
     
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    A loser hemp jewelry maker, living San Francisco, registered as a Green Party member and illegal.

    It's almost like this guy was trolling the left to make them politicize and rage against Republicans and MAGA only to look like complete fools.

    Haha
     
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    And again, when it was "open season" on illegals by ICE, why didn't they arrest him. He was well known, knew where he lived, where he went, etc and they did not arrest him. You don't need local PD to assist you here.
     
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    It would have made the local news, but that's it. But even Breibart would see a political story in this and report it.
     
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    He WAS arrested, numerous times. The question is, why was he set free to continue victimizing our peaceable citizenry? Why wasn't he deported? Paul pelosi probably wishes he had been.
     
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    Arrested, but not convicted from my understanding. But usually with bail, past offenses generally do not enter the picture unless it is the same crime repeatedly, like multiple past burglaries with a current burglary charge. But even that will more than likely ger bail despite the prosecution asking for remand.

    Remand, in state court, is usually set when a person is either has no ties to the community, has expressed he will not honor the conditions of release, or something similar.
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    If a crime is committed in America you apparently blame the closest undocumented. Most fentanyl is manufactured in American labs ala Breaking Bad though you and most conservatives think that any MURICAN is totally incapable of synthesizing anything illegal unless they're an educator grooming a child for LGBTQ sex.
     
  14. Steve N

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    Here you go:

    Illegal aliens make up more than 11% of inmate population, yet less than 4% of U.S. population

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com...ns-make-up-more-than-11-of-inmate-population/
    Sanctuary cities don't report illegal alien criminals to ICE and that resulted in Pelosi getting his head bashed in.
     
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    I think the media is desperate for it to be political. Thats why they were tripping over themselves to believe Smollett's cockamamie story.

    it's nothing.
     
  16. Steve N

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    Most fentanyl is made here? I've seen documentaries how the raw materials come from China, sent to mexico and made into the drug and then smuggled here. Do you have a reputable link to support your claim?
     
  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Fentanyl can be synthesized anywhere no matter what DEA propaganda says
     
  18. Steve N

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    Give me some names of anywhere.

    Mexican cartels pump most of the meth into this country and they have marijuana fields in CA protected by armed thugs. Cocaine doesn't come from this country, it has to be imported. A lot of misery and death comes our way via our southern amigos.
     
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    Yes. It's my understanding that the Cartel's have set up labs to manufacture it near our border.

    Fentanyl vaccine potential ‘game changer’ for opioid epidemic.

    'A research team led by the University of Houston has developed a vaccine targeting the dangerous synthetic opioid fentanyl that could block its ability to enter the brain, thus eliminating the drug's "high." The breakthrough discovery could have major implications for the nation's opioid epidemic by becoming a relapse prevention agent for people trying to quit using opioids. While research reveals Opioid Use Disorder (OUD) is treatable, an estimated 80% of those dependent on the drug suffer a relapse.'

    'In another positive finding, the vaccine did not cause any adverse side effects in the immunized rats involved in lab studies. The team plans to start manufacturing clinical-grade vaccine in the coming months with clinical trials in humans planned soon.'

    Still can use surgical morphine.

    "The anti-fentanyl antibodies were specific to fentanyl and a fentanyl derivative and did not cross-react with other opioids, such as morphine. That means a vaccinated person would still be able to be treated for pain relief with other opioids," said Haile.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Or maybe just legalise it, and then we could stop spending trillions to enforce our morals on people.
     
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    I assume you also want free and easy access to AR-15's as well? In an entire year less than 400 people are killed with a rifle and that includes justified self defense, law enforcement shoots and suicides. The number of homicides by rifle are far lower.

    Fentanyl, on the other hand is killing 64,000 Americans a year.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    If opioids were legal nobody would want fentanyl
    And fentanyl users aren't slaughtering primary schools
     
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    Drug OD's are killing children.
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    How?
     
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    The same way an OD kills anyone else.

    If you want more info, do the work to find it out. You have a search bar, just like I do.
     

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