Sweden’s Immigration Debate

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Godwin much?
     
  2. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    If you want to see how much immigration there has already been in Sweden, look at this video from Göteborg:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAKjX5AafAY"]Brobyggardag I Eriksbo 2011 - YouTube[/ame]


    Note how most of the older adults are swedish, but most of the younger children are north african, middle eastern, or asian. The recently arrived immigrants just have more children than swedish families.

    What you see in this video is very typical.

    Sweden is loosing its culture and race, and identity. The country's famed social cohesion is beginning to feel the strain. I do not think the welfare model in its present form will be able to be sustained in Sweden. Those on the left just do not see that diversity undermines the very values they fight for.
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    I think Sweden should offer 100000 SEK to immigrants who have had their applications accepted to forfeit their acceptance. Just to help weed out those who come to Sweden for economic reasons. In any case, 500000 SEK is much cheaper than what it actually costs the country to take care of the immigrants and their children after they come to Sweden.

    The Swedish people have worked arduously over the last 100 years to turn their country into a paradise. Why should all the good countries have to lower their standards of living by accepting hoards of immigrants? Brazil, Mexico, and India do not take them on. Indeed, Indian security forces rutinely shoot Bangladashi refugee women trying to flee into the country.

    Swedish young adults are already finding it difficult to afford housing near the cities. Bringing on more people is not going to help things in the future.

    Sweden already offers more foreign aid per capita to help alleviate poverty in Africa than most other countries. If Sweden wants to help the poor in the thrid world, it can do it in other, more cost effective ways besides allowing them to immigrate. If Sweden wants to provide refuge for refugees, why not just pay some other poor country to house them? Sweden could pay for middle eastern refugees to live in Egypt, where the cost of living in much lower. The Egyptian government would be happy to have an extra source of income. Nearly all of the refugees just want to escape from poverty and get free welfare. Just give them the money instead of allowing them to immigrate. Half the immigrants would not even come to Sweden if the government just offered to gave them 3000 SEK per month in their own country.

    Swedes have it so good, they have absolutely no concern about what so much immigration could do to their country. Perhaps when the oversupply of workers starts driving down wages, or when they decide to stop increasing the minimum wage to keep up with inflation because there is so much unemployement (unemployment is often used as a justification for not increasing the minimum wage in other countries), Swedes will start suffering and be concerned about immigration. But by then it will be too late.
     
  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Gee, I wonder why Sweden's left (and the Western left in general) would support such open ended and unsustainable immigration policy?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/7198329/Labours-secret-plan-to-lure-migrants.html

    I guess it will just have to remain a mystery!
    :)
     
  5. The Judge

    The Judge New Member Past Donor

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    Got any stats to back that concept? Based on this forum alone, it seems that most hate crime is practiced by western non-immigrants.
     
  6. dilligaf

    dilligaf New Member

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    why do minorities commit nearly half the crimes in Sweden, what would the per capita rates be compared to the white majority?Its a bit like America where 14% of the population commit the majority of crimes...

    (Immigrants are overrepresented in Sweden's crime statistics. During the period 1997–2001, 25% of the almost 1,520,000 offences were committed by people born overseas, while almost 20% were committed by Swedish-born people with a foreign background. Those from North Africa and the Middle East were overrepresented.[3]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden)

    Ok lets take a look at rapes in sweden.

    Why do foriegners commit nearly half of the rapes in Sweden, what would be the per capita rates compared with the white man Judge?

    ( A report by the anti immigration party Sweden Democrats in September 2010 which claimed to have compiled 114 of 253 court rulings from around the country in 2009 stated that 48% of convicted rapists in Sweden in 2009 were born abroad.[26
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden)

    Lets not forget the high percentage of rapes amongs the swedish born non whites as well.

    Oh and heres the reply to your excuses for rapists.

    ( in 2009, in a European Union study, the researcher stated that Sweden's high rape rate cannot be explained purely by a greater tendency to report rapes, but reflected that rape was more common in Sweden.[6]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden)

    Now contrast the very high percentage of crimes by non whites in Sweden with the 100% non white rapes in Norway...to which the Judge conveniently avoided answering.

    Well Judge, where are all the white men raping in Norway?

    Heres how people like the judge like to justify these non white rapes..

    Recall reports a couple of months back that every recorded incident of rape in Oslo in the last 5 years was committed by individuals with "non-Western backgrounds"? Well, a "Swedish violence researcher" has a novel explanation for what is causing these rapes:
    http://tinyurl.com/3guvhdw

    Bureaucrats delay Oslo rape enquiries
    http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/bureaucrats-delay-oslo-rape-enquiries/
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    51 reported assault rapes have been reported in Oslo so far this year. Aftenposten claims it has seen official police figures showing 43 of these occurred between 10 pm and 6 am the next day. 38 happened in the six hours from midnight.

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    Meanwhile, Peter Gill, a Swedish violence researcher, believes Anders Behring Breivik’s attacks could have inspired the rapist(s).

    “What is special about Breivik is that he brought an evil thought to life. There are many children who are bullied, aggressive, but they don’t turn thoughts into grounds because of that,” he tells Vårt Land.

    He admits drawing a connection between a rise in Oslo’s assault rapes and Breivik’s actions could be “pure speculation” unless it “turns out not to be coincidental.”

    So now we all know the judge is a joker and shouldnt be judging anything.
     
  7. DutchClogCyborg

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    Here you go, 50 percent come of non western immigrant sand their poorly raised offspring.
     

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