Sweden: Despite Variants, No Lockdowns, No Daily Covid Deaths

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    After working from home for a year, the mask might be more comfy than my pants lol
     
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    It sounds like going the herd immunity approach causes more lives lost at the beginning and less later on
    It still sounds like a lose/lose situation to me
    To @Daniel Light ’s comment on socialized medicine, I’m not saying it would or wouldn’t work I’m America but I can’t say our current healthcare system is anything to brag about
    I’ve had money deducted from my paycheck EVERY 2 weeks for 30 years and am in general good health and STILL get some BS bill in the mail for some kind of medical thing that insurance doesn’t cover even though I’ve been paying into it for my whole adult life
    Something seems wrong with this
     
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    Exactly
     
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    IVERMECTIN:roflol:

    https://www.theguardian.com/science...vid-treatment-withdrawn-over-ethical-concerns
     
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    No, That was an idiot liberal. One of the same as Pelosi who thought Trump told them to inject their lugs with Lysol.
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

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    Good one, WS...

    "Trump said it was the Miracle Cure"...

    https://www.bbc.com/news/52012242
     
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    Yet it was a liberal who died from it. No surprise there. I guess Pelosi shouldn't have told everyone that Trump said to inject their lungs with Lysol.
     
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    Sweden and a couple of other Scandinavian countries showed what the WHO has admitted that locks do not work for controlling COVID and cause more problems than they are supposed to fix.

    However this ignores the real purpose of lockdowns which is the insatiable desire and compulsion of the elite (including the media) and politicians to tell people what they can do or not do. It has very little to do with actually supporting the health of the populace although that makes a good foil.
     
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    The most vaccinated countries are having another wave of infections like the Netherlands and the UK while the least vaccinated countries are not.
     
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    Guarantee you won't share a link to back this up too.
     
  12. Hoosier8

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    They could be, if they don't make some changes

    SNIP
    Sweden has recorded more COVID-19 cases per capita than most countries so far: Since the start of the pandemic, roughly 11 out of every 100 people in Sweden have been diagnosed with COVID-19, compared with 9.4 out of every 100 in the UK and 7.4 per 100 in Italy. Sweden has also recorded around 145 COVID-19 deaths for every 100,000 people — around three times more than Denmark, eight times more than Finland, and nearly 10 times more than Norway.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sweden-covid-no-lockdown-strategy-failed-higher-death-rate-2021-8

    I like Sweden as much as the next guy, but acting like Florida is NOT the best model to follow.... I wonder if Sven DeSantis is still in charge over there??
     
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    Well, we can agree on that. Just to be fair, we should really make sure those folks in the south get first dibs (actually the only dibs, since educated people won't be taking it)

    SNIP
    The FDA stressed that no form of the ivermectin drug has been approved by the agency for use in treating or preventing Covid-19 in humans.
    ENDSNIP


    https://www.yahoo.com/news/stop-fda-warns-people-not-184608993.html

    Is there a GoFundMe for this distribution that you are aware of?
     
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    Total ignorant lie. Completely false. Try harder.
     
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    And useless
     
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    Wow, you really don’t understand the concept of a quarantine, do you?
     
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    I still haven't been able to figure out why people are taking medical advice from politicians.

    I heard about that one couple drinking the fish tank cleaner. The wife fought it for a few days after her husband died and then she passed. It's sad. I really wish the AMA would try to work with alternative health care providers to augment allopathic medicine. It would help with WHOLE system health and enlighten both sides to various treatment options. I understand it's because they can't patent natural remedies so there is no huge financial gain to break bread with the other side, BUT, that type of collaboration could potentially help decrease these types of desperate measures people take because they can't get help from their doctors. Yes, it's not smart to drink fish tank cleaner or take animal grade dewormers but they clearly felt they had no choice. It's tragic.

    This didn't have to be political.
    It didn't have to spread basically unabated.
    People don't need to be dying from ingesting stuff not for human consumption.
    Kids don't need to be getting sick.
    And on and on.

    Let's push this topic off the partisan nonsense. This is a medical situation and the sooner we all work toward collective participation outside the nonsense left/right wars...the better off we will be. I don't want to read Centerfield's posts about our daily hospitalization and death counts rising again. I don't think any of you do either.

    What can we do to make this better?
     
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    The left made this political, it isn't going away.

    Masks dont work, people aren't taking medical advice from politicians....just because you can find an anecdote of that doesn't make it something thats widely occurring.
     
  20. MJ Davies

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    Trump made it political.
    What are you talking about? There are posts all over this forum and the internet of people saying they won't take the vaccine because Biden is recommending it. There were some saying they wouldn't take it when Trump was in office. It's all nonsense.

    You think just a handful of people got sick off disinfectant?

     
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    FYI, Sweden has experienced more than 5x as many COVID deaths as Denmark, Norway, and Finland COMBINED
     
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    False, democrats made it political. They immediately attacked Trump. It was a time we could have come together and democrats saw an opportunity to attack and took it. The polarization in our country, and around the vaxx is completely driven my democrats.

    Its a non issue, no matter how many anecdotes you bring up. People have done much stupider things, that doesn't make it a wide spread issue.
     
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    How? Democrats had nothing to do with him downplaying the virus or not taking leadership during our time of crisis. That was all him.

    I don't care what you think about people dying after listening to Trump. They died and the fact you people are wearing some kind of steel-reinforced blinders about his BS doesn't change the fact it has had consequences for countless people.

    I'm hoping they decriminalize bigamy so all of you Fan Boys and Girls can marry the traitor.
     
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    I support individuals exercising their “free will” and not getting vaccinated, what I do not support is them filling emergency rooms and stealing beds from others in need. Nor should tax payers be forced to pay for their care.

    Personal responsibility is all anyone wants to see here.
     
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    Some of us don't have that. One of us is a pathological liar, narcissistic, petulant, whiny, spoiled, lazy child who is the POSTER BOY for all his worshippers to be just as irresponsible, selfish, deluded and self-entitled.
     
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