Sweden: Despite Variants, No Lockdowns, No Daily Covid Deaths

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  1. Moolk

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    He was giving hope to the American people, and yet took it far more seriously than any democrat which decided to call him a racist for actually taking effective action. That was all democrats. I dont care what you think about the anecdotes of people who took what the MSM claimed Trump said, when he never said it, and then died from it. Your inability to rationally differentiate between anecdote and main stream is your own short coming.

    He did a great job, far outperforming democrats and their misinformation efforts.
     
  2. Moolk

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    Emergency rooms have no choice but to provide aid.

    That will not and should not change.

    Your evil words aside, the next time someone you love gets in a car crash just remember...they are stealing beds from others in need because they didn't pay enough attention on the roads.
     
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    My loved ones have something called insurance. You should try it!
     
  4. Moolk

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    Are you claiming I dont have insurance?

    I mean, it wouldn't be the first time you have jumped to irrational conclusions based on nothing. Also, insurance or not that wouldn't stop them from stealing a bed lol. You didnt think that through very well in any way.

    Regardless, I remain correct despite your refusal to even address it.
     
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    You seem to be confusing insured medical procedures / liability with something the US tax payer was providing.

    I was hoping it was due to ignorance but I see now it was a dishonest attempt to distort the facts. Shame
     
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    It's probably because they don't artificially inflate the covid death numbers. So when someone gets sick and has to be hospitalized after with something that's been declared a pandemic hospitals get funding from the government, and because cause of death by pandemic can be assumed during a pandemic they're going to do everything they can to say every death is caused by pandemic we incentivize these numbers to increase.

    Sweden's medical system simply works differently.
     
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    Be better comparing Sweden to Ohio since they are the same size
     
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    so Trump declaring this a national emergency, telling the states to shut down for 30 days and giving guidelines of how to open (that still have not been met) and declaring himself a wartime President against an invisible enemy was the wrong way to handle this?
     
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    could they be right?

    some say Trump wanted the virus to spread and the reason Trump shutdown the economy is that he knew the economy was failing, and the only way for him to inject trillions into the mega corps was to use the virus crisis to do so, if that did not work, he would blame it on the virus, win\win either way as far as Trump was concerned
     
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    The World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention claim Trump could save 1.1 million to 2.9 million projected deaths by shutting down the economy.
    So you give credit to Trump for following their advice and saving millions. Thats good. baby steps.

    Then by injecting 10 billion into OWS Trump was able to remove all of the red tape that would keep you from getting a vaccine available in the US for at least 8 years.

    Now you're starting to get it. Good for you.
     
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    so you agree with Trump's decision to shut down the country?
     
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    Nope, What benefit does it have with a SARS virus that eventually everyone will have anyway as we have never found a cue for a virus.
     
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    ok, we agree, the Trump shutdown hurt this country, only if hospitals were overloaded should an area of been shutdown temporarily
     
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    Well, in that vein, the unvaccinated should not be given a hospital bed, and I like the idea going around that they should also pay higher health insurance premiums than those civic minded and responsible people who got vaccinated.
     
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    Lol…trump only did what the rest of the world’s leaders did, except that he resisted every step and tried to bullshit his way out of a pandemic until the deaths overwhelmed even his self serving agenda.
     
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    Yeah, what ever
     
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    Americans have access to healthier diets. A large portion of them choose not to take advantage of them.

    Liberals whine that poor Americans are starving when the reality is we have a plethora of 300 lb. welfare queens who gorge themselves on junk food when food stamps could just as easily buy health food.
     
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    Wrong. Smiles are important. Masks over years harm the psyche, especially the children.
     
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    Even better comparing it to the nations it borders, which have he same total population and are otherwise better comparisons.

    Sweden has 5 times their deaths, more or less.
     
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    And we should let obese people die of a heart attack at home, they should also pay higher premiums. Heart disease dwarfs covid in death rate.
     
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    Indeed. They admit they made a terrible mistake which resulted in 10x death rate compared to their neighbors.
     
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    They always will be given a hospital bed, your irrational hate of them aside. Remember that next time a loved one gets in a traffic collision because they didn’t take appropriate actions to avoid it. They shouldn’t be given a bed either. It should be left to the “civic” minded lol
     
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    I thought it was 600 million. Are you sure your numbers are right?
     
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    I doubt it takes years. Months of watching their parents become utterly irrational over a virus with a 99% survival rate, being forced to wear masks for nothing, will have profound effects on the developing psyche of youngsters.
     

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