Swedes tell Britain, If you leave the EU, We will follow.

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  1. SailAway

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    friday.. uk went down 3.15.. france 6.2.. and germany 6.8 %

    monday.. uk went down 2.55.. france 2.97 and germany 3.02

    this is apples to apples comparison from cnn live world stock markets.... shows UK is the winner

    today ireland dropped nearly 10% after dropping nearly 8% friday.. sweden today nearly 9%.. all nordic nations dropped more than the UK.. and iceland NOT in the euro union even gained today... ALL this is shwoing UK is the winner and staying in the union will make nations lose and one can see how many nations will exit quickly now.. Merkel made a MONSTROUS ERROR.. and remember with the UK vote 75% under 25 voted to stay in the euro union which proves this is a WISDOM issue... the wise votes to leave and the unwise votes to leave the euro union
     
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    Which immigrants are they? You clearly have no idea what the eu is about. Here is a simple explanation for you. The eu referendum has no effect on non-eu immigrants, it only effects eu immigrants. The reason for Germany market to fall is due to one of the major eu contributors (UK) soon to stop contributing to the eu - Germany and France will have to make up the short fall. If France ends the "Le Touquet agreement" then non-eu immigration into the UK will get worse.

    The FT250, the index that is more indicative of UK companies, lost another 7% today - 14.2% drop in two days. The pound has dropped 10% relative to the Euro which means that the 14.2% is actually worse. The Uk rating has dropped from AAA.

    You seem to be of the type that is happy to lose $100 dollars as long as someone else loses $150
     
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    75% of people under 25 voted to remain in the euro.. that proves this is a wisdom issue of if it harms or helps to run in immigrants that had created their third world nation.....the young does not have the experience and data and history to be able to analyze like the older... so clearly this is a WISDOM ISSUE.... the wise KNOWS how ceratin things harm
     
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    YOU MISSED in the same page where it says this///////Elsewhere, the French CAC and German DAX sank 3 percent each. .... what you are comparing is not apples to apples but apples to elephants.. a small group of stocks and it is not used like the main one that dropped 3%... go to cnn live world stock markets to compare apples to apples correctly....
     
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    you are wrong.. what you ar doing is comparing apples to elephants... it is NOT the 250 to look at to compare.. the 100 is the top 100 companies and will swamp the next 250.. and that is why the 100 is the one used widely picking a few stocks can make something look totally different.... check live world stock markets to see how they use only the 100 for comparison.. and check all other smaller stock markets of the euro union.. all the euro nordic nations hammered very strongly and ireland went down nearly 9 % friday and nearly 10% monday.... iceland not in the euro union even went UP... what this shows is that the union harms nations ////////////////
     
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    The level of the FTSE 100 affects most people in the UK even if they don’t directly invest for themselves: as pension fund holders whose investments are probably invested in UK equities, how well the index is performing directly affects the return they will receive.

    The FTSE 100 is also a pretty good reflection of economic and international events – often it will tumble in response to markets falling around the world. The largest one-day percentage fall was on 20 October 1987 at 12.22%; this was the day following ‘Black Monday
     
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    The other countries do not use 100 companies in their main index. The dow jones - 30, dax - 30, ibex -35, etc
     
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    Looks like UK stock is winning again against germany stock... half of the third day UK and france stock jockeying who will win today barely and germany lagging behind after 2 days of UK blowing both france and germany out of the water and all nations in the euro each of the first 2 days

    the older folks past 25 voted in a landslide to exit... more wise is what comes with experience.. so this simply is a wisdom issue the more conservative the more wise and successful
     
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    What's funny about that is that northern California would love to split away from southern California. That would be hilarious.
     
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    Oh no! It dropped 8 cents! Tragedy!

    The funny thing is you don't realize that this actually helps them.
     
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    as ghandi said if they were to make mistakes then it is their mistakes to make. Its what freedom is :)
     
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    UK stock market has beat france and germany AGAIN all 3 days .. germany last all 3 days....HORRENDOUS BLUNDER by merkel!! and liberals

    and big blunder by liberals showing how easy it is to secede and showing how the big issue is that the more wise voters are conservative. which will change things everywhere when a wisdom test for voters becomes law everywhere...

    75% of 18-24 yr olds voted to stay in the euro which would mean the older and more wise voted in a landslide to leave more liberal euro union.. this will wake up the world and america .. liberalism will be finished...America has 30 conservative states ready to secede with canada' conservative province alberta joining THE CONSERVATIVE STATES OF AMERCA.. china is very conservative as well as russia and now europe and america will be also.... all these will have a wisdom test for its voters.. China probably has that in private.. they see the people that seem wise and they bring them in and give them wisdom tests and they then vote for their leaders and make the laws and that is why their GDP scores have soared.. whereas liberal europe stuck with making stupid mistakes of having liberalism
     
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    well that just means that your money is more valuable than theirs since htey lost 150 : )

    Though I am seeing that the UK market has rebounded today after the panic selling. I am sure libs wont mention that.

    Btw i have been constantly told UK takes more money than she sends to brussels. They should not miss her contribution.
     
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    Sweden is on life support; economically, domestically and politically.

    If there was any group of people who should be thinking of leaving the EU, it's them.
     
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    Using your logic, unless there is a big buy on the Dow Jones very soon, the US must be part of the eu. Dow Jones currently +1.40% with 15 minutes left. Dax ended the day at 1.93% up. Or are you going to change your guidelines?
     
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    The UK sends more out to the eu than it gets back. However here is an article that shows how much we rely on eu investments:
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/economics-blog/2014/sep/11/uk-companies-foreign-owned

    This article from 2014 written before all this talk about leaving : Just 1% of companies are foreign-owned, but contribute 29% of UK gross value added . But in terms of continents, the majority (54%) of foreign-owned businesses were owned from within Europe,

    The eu could really screw us if they want their revenge just by moving their companies to places like Poland which have a much cheaper labor force. They could also impose high tariffs on the few products we manufacture. The UK only makes money on financial institutions which are fairly easy to relocate or copy.
     
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    So the argument is that the only thing that made the UK desirable is that it is part of EU nothing else and they can move it all to poland with no problems.

    Well in that case the UK would have been screwed whether they stay in or out :) after all they have no competetive advantage whatsoever.
     
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    Not really. The only thing that made the UK desirable was our contribution to the eu. I really do not think that the eu can survive without our contribution. I'm talking about revenge that the eu can do to us. That revenge would not be necessary if we had stayed in.

    Basically, why would companies such as Nissan manufacture cars in the UK if the eu decides to get its revenge by imposing tariffs on cars imported into Europe when Nissan can just move to Poland and export cars to the eu tariff free.
     
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    You're setting the bar a bit low. (just kidding)
     
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    THE 4 day pattern with the stock markets of UK.. FRANCE ,,and GERMANY..... EACH and every day UK was the winner of these 3...
    each and every day Germany was the loser of these 3.

    THE REASON is the wise can see that the immigration issue harms.. and UK shows they are saying most to NO they are helped the most and since germany is saying YES they are harmed the worst

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    THE 4 day pattern with the stock markets of UK.. FRANCE ,,and GERMANY..... EACH and every day UK was the winner of these 3...
    each and every day Germany was the loser of these 3.

    THE REASON is the wise can see that the immigration issue harms.. and UK shows they are saying most to NO they are helped the most and since germany is saying YES they are harmed the worst
     

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