Syria & Turkey have each killed more civilians than Libya, Tunisia, Yemen & Egypt com

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  1. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    United States, EU, UN, and NATO must get their priorities straight; when they have offered nothing but words to support tens of thousands of peaceful demonstrators in Syria, with the official low estimate of peaceful civilian death toll at 630 in just the past two weeks, while Turkey has stepped up its bombings in many heavily Kurd populated North Kurdistan provinces, and sporadic killing of peaceful civilians during demonstrations, funerals, and random home raids.

    Libya, a country with just over 6 million Arab citizens have become the center of attention in the mainstream international Media, and we are being shown some hand picked videos of demonstrators being attacked or after attacks by apparently “Libyan Forces”, and the drone selected bombings against those Forces by CIA, while NATO and United States are also staging sorties, bombing targets not quite identified from great distances.
    Steve Tataii is a Kurdish scholar, is the former candidate for the United States Senator.
    Libya has become the only Arab state among the rest of those mentioned in a waive of civilian uprisings against their suppressive regimes starting with Tunisia, that US and some others have had military intervention in one way or the other, yet US and the aforementioned allied forces did not dare to touch the Syrian nor Turkey’s outlaw-fascist military installations amid their vicious and bloody attacks against their civilians, and have turned a blind eye on the peaceful demonstrators desperately in need of intervention. Is this what you call Equal Justice For All? Or have we forgotten President Obama’s Promises of helping any nation under vicious attacks by Military under the orders of their Government?

    US foreign policy makers’ usual public statement has been: “We will only intervene if the civilians or their Rebel Leaders ask us to do so”. My first reaction to this false propaganda is: ”ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha” followed by “bla bla bla bla blab bla bla”. In the first series; I laugh because often enough over the past 100 years US & her Allies have been asked by Kurd civilians and their “Genuine” Leaders; that: Yes US, please do intervene, because the Western Colonial Powers’ Puppet regimes are attacking, and killing our innocent civilians, yes please do intervene, and stop your Allies’ killing machines, and their puppets, installed, to Rule our people by force dear US.

    My second series of reaction “bla bla ………………” is to describe saving you time avoiding the usual lectures I have already given you in dozens of my articles & books, because they have often fallen on deaf ears. So I say to you readers from all sides of the spectrum as observers, players, or just the silent majority, when your interests have come first, and in fear of losing your precious high paying Jobs or properties or savings; will not speak up,www.ekurd.netwrite your opinions, or contact the political leaders, reminding them to stop the real suppressive, murderer, and Tyrant regimes, killing their own people and other peoples they have long Ruled by force to steal their land, and natural resources such as the largest nation without a country of their own to this day, after a century of being invaded, and forced in failed attempts at assimilations, Genocides, assassinations, Torture, Hanging, and imprisonments.

    I’m speaking of none other than the present 50-60 million Kurds, when their Independent state was blocked from being formed by Great Britain & France during the 1920-23 process of statehood for post WWI nations out of the fallen Ottoman Empire, beginning with the 1920 Treaty of Sevres of US President Woodrow Wilson Self-Determination Doctrine with ulterior Motives embedded in it to help the mentioned colonial powers; to, in fact, deny Kurds "independence" in exchange with closed door sweetheart deals with ill intended puppets, ahead of the 4 manufactured states of Syria, Turkey, Iran, and Iraq; to usurp or occupy by Force; 4 pieces of the Great Kurdistan.

    The tragic, vicious consequences were obviously catastrophic, when Kurd Populations in each of the divided parts were targets of "endless" unspeakable “Man-Made” human sufferings, death, and destruction over the past 90 years ranging from mass killings, Torture, systematic executions, Imprisonments, and Genocides in different magnitudes, be it in thousands of remote villages or towns, and even cities as large as 5000 Kurd inhabited throughout Kurdistan territory.

    How then United States “The most powerful nation in the world” spreads propagandas of lies and deception via Hillary Clinton; that: “We will help the civilians under attack only if they ask us to do so”, when they have loudly asked for help, and support, while attacked and killed by dozens in their peaceful demonstrations shown on US and other news TV programs, to bring change into their ruthless, and murderer system of Governments in both Syria, when its citizens suddenly rise up against “now” Assad’s old Rotten regime of Terror & Suppression in the past 90 years, and Turkey, when peaceful demonstrators and peaceful citizens of North Kurdistan have been under vicious attacks, mass killings, Genocides, Torture, and imprisonments also over the past 90 years? How?

    Well, similar to the old saying: “No matter who’s in charge in the US, EU, NATO, and UN; the spokesmen & women can fool us half of the time, they can fool us part of the time, but rest assure; that they can not fool us all of the time, and American people are increasingly being fed up, and speaking up against the bulk of their corrupt members of US Congress, and Leadership in many other areas of US Government, and no doubt their voices shall be heard, and the peaceful voices, who seek Justice & speak the truth shall be louder and “deafening” louder, when the corrupt elements shall someday hold their ears, resign, and head it for the exit doors.

    Steve Tataii is a current candidate for US Congress in 2010 special election, former candidate for the United States Senate in ‘06, and US House in ’02 (won the election, but denied of his victory through a plot by corrupt inner circle political elements). US House Candidate ’08 (no debate), author of three recent books on the Iraq War related to Kurds and Kurdistan, long-time contributing writer for local and other media, linguist of more than six languages, and an Independent Conflict Resolution Consultant. His Website (soon to be updated) is: www.tataiiforcongress.com

    Steve Tataii is a longtime contributing writer for ekurd.net

    http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2011/5/turkey3212.htm
     
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    Gadhafi thumbin' his nose at NATO...
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    I just can't understand the very idea of spreading these propagandas implying that the Turkish state is so evil to the Kurds.

    I mean what's the matter? If The Kurdish Iraq wants western support, which they indeed want so badly!, they should get along well with the Turkish state as the only possible way to contact with the West in the future will be through the Turkish border as Kurdistan is land locked as well as surrounded by the worst enemies of the West!

    What's more, Turkey has been supportive to the Iraqi Kurdistan in most cases.
     
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    Everybody want US troops and US money to fix their problem.
     
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    I think you'll find that they want the US to mind it's own business and stay out of other peoples affairs.

    That would solve many problems especially if they shipped all the zionists on Titanic headed to Texas with a few lifeboats that would solve one of the biggest problems in the region. In fact THE biggest problem in the region.

    I bet you the Texans would sabotage those few lifeboats if they knew they were headed towards their shores!!
     
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    I don't know, but it sounds to me like Alan has been waiting 90 years for the US and UK to give the Kurds a state like Israel.
     
  8. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    yeah specially when they threaten to invade in 2007 when S.Kurdistan was about to declare independence . LOL
     
  9. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    plus i think the whole world know how evil turkey is when it comes to kurds only recently you guys are taking it easy on kurds , from 1923-2002 you were suppressing killing destroying villages jailing lil kids in the name of supporting terrorism and what not . these arent Kurdish propaganda the net is full of videos taken by western journalists and son on , if the only propaganda there is it will be turkish media who has been brain washing you ppl for decades .
     
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    are you blind or you intentionally decided to be a comedian ??

    Israel does not compare to kurdistan in anyways . kurds are NOT spread all over the world in diaspora asking US or west to buy lands for them to live in or to be created for them . Kurd have their lands called kurdistan they are 40 millions of them currently residing in these lands (kurdistan) . are you a joker or what ? .... here is where they live since you have decided to be so blunt and blind.

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    plus we dont want anyone to give us anything !!! who said that about us ???? we just want occupation by Iran turkey and Syria to come to an end on Kurdish lands. after the fall on ottoman empire , Turks , Persians Arabs all got countries out of it excluding kurds to have a state of their own and dividing their lands among themselves to be suppressed by them till today.

    in turkey 18-20 million kurds have been killed jailed villages destroyed cos they are kurds and refuse to be "mountain turks"
    in Iran 6.8 million they get hanged if they speak of politics
    in Syria 1.5 million kurds they are deprived of even having Syrian citizenship

    dont you think it would be better if they are let off since they are not allowed to have basic human rigths on lands they have been native to for 6000 years ??
     
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    alan131210 New Member

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    its ok for arabs to have 25 countries but for kurds to have one its haram ??? lol we have a very famous poem on arabs but im not going to say it here .
     
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    do you mean Mass graves ? do you mean the destruction of 3000 Kurdish villages ? do you mean imprisonment of Kurdish kids ? do you mean beating up women and children for simply celebrating Kurdish new year of Newroz ? Do you mean the physical abuse that civilian kurds suffer on the hand of military for simply being kurds ? , or may be you mean burning the bodies of PKK fighter after they were killed or cutting them to pieces ?


    you may have a good business deal going on with S.kurdistan but that doesn't make the 5 million kurds there to "forget" the 2007 Turkish threat to invade our region after we were about to declare independence . but i would like for turkey to make the same move this time round after all the changes going on in middle east.
     
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    Alan, again, you are over-reacting, and missing my main point. Even when what you wrote is entirely true, it's still propaganda aiming to spread hate against Turkey. Not that you shouldn't write down what happened in the past, but if you intentionally keep writing the same events again and again and again. That's not cool. Don't forget what happened in the past but please cut this endless animosity towards Turkey.

    My main point is, one day, Kurdistan will be established as a independent state, and then Turkey will probably the only friendly state that provides what Kurdistan needs from the West.

    If Kurdistan will not get along well with Turkey, she can't survive in the region. As she's landlocked and surrounded by the hostile countries.

    Please learn some politics.
     
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    alan131210 New Member

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    i agree with you on that , a kurdistan state established from S.kurdistan will need turkey to send its natural resources to EU , also turkey will benefit from it too .....

    but are you saying to me turkey does not oppose a kurdish state ? if thats the case why is it opposing and supporting al iraqiya list in iraq not to have article 140 of iraqs constitution implemented which calls for "isolated" kurdish areas that were sliced off by Saddam to go through census then referendum , if turkey wants to have a good relationship with its neighbour dont you think its best not to interfere in its affairs as well ???
     
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    i guess with Syrian regime down kurdsitan in south kurdsitan will have a new door which means turkey will not be needed to send the oil out to EU .
     
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    One might wonder where the outrage is, well anyone pointing out the killing will face a wall of downright sad turkish nationalism :D
     

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