Syrian Army vs Al Qaeda

Discussion in 'Middle East' started by SyrianGirl1982, Oct 6, 2014.

  1. freemarket

    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    I don't read "Liberals for no Personal Responsibility Weekly"
     
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    Wesley Clark is a grandstander... and Saudi Arabia isn't funding ISIL or civil war in Syria.
     
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    On the contrary I speak several languages and possess a degree in history and I used to run my own business.
    And you did say that; in the same sentence as well.
    "Yea right these 9,000,000 Syrian refugees were transferred by the corporations they worked for and decided they would rather wonder around in the Turkish desert for awhile."
    This sentence quite clearly says that 9,000,000 refugees decided to wander around the Turkish desert courtesy of the corporations they worked for.
    And once again it still has no relevance to what I said in the beginning
     
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    You've made unsubstantiated claims.
     
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    Do you speak English?

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    No that doesn't mean that I can't separate fact from fiction. It means that it's a contested view which I would be happy to substantiate that by showing you my sources if you asked for them.
     
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    I agree, the US should be focusing more on its own problems. In all honesty, I find most of US involvement in the Middle East has turned out bad and not too productive in any way for it.
     
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    Clark was merely emphasising what anybody who has bothered to read the PNAC actually knew as far back as 1997. True the Saudi government per isn't technically in it's official capacity funding them but they are nevertheless being funded in part by super rich Salafist supporting high ranking personnel with close ties to the government which is virtually the same thing.

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    Ok, please go ahead.
     
  8. Margot2

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    Wesley Clark is nothing special.. and anyone can read the PNAC letter to Clinton.

    As for the Saudis.. They freeze your assets if you try to fund terrorists, but so many people have a knee jerk accusation about them... virtually every insta-pundit.
     
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    freemarket New Member Past Donor

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    Do you know what quotation marks are?
    I did get a chuckle out of your "show me where I haven't " comment. You do realize that asking someone to present proof of something that doesn't exist is impossible and idiotic right? :roflol:
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    These countries better do what Washington tells them or they will bring democracy to their countries. That'll teach'em.
     
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    The problem with you Margot is that you too often whitewash the despicable actions of the totalitarian Saudi regime.
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17344858
    Page 5 mentions the shootings by authorities as well as the first protests in March
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/03/syria-demonstrations-douma-funerals
    The guardian also reports this
    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/329590
    This refers to the shopkeeper I mentioned with protests occurring on the 17th of February
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17085226
    And a BBC video showing civilians killed by government forces
    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2011/06/2011624133653746255.html
    Aljazeera reporting shooting in Homs.

    There are more available.
     
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    Trout, the Saudi track record over the past 80 years speaks for itself.. They are our oldest and most stable ally in the whole Middle East.
     
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    Yes I do and I have shown you exactly what you've said which clearly proves my point.
    I would call that mad.
    I've just presented proof.
     
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    You really aren't very good at this and offer nothing here. I think you would be better off in the "opinion section" and leaving the fact based topics to those of us more qualified. Dismissed.
     
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    Thanks for taking the time. I'm afraid in terms of the key issues, the BBC is, in effect, little more than a propaganda organ of the British state. Also shooting in and of itself is not evidence of anything. The notion that the events were somehow symptomatic of the Arab Spring is a gross mischaracterization as to what actually unfolded.
     
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    It worth noting that every time that I've asked you to prove and back up your claims; you never respond.
    And speaking of qualifications what exactly do you do for a living?
     
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    Other than that pesky little 9/11 terrorist attack. Right?
    "“There’s nothing in it about national security,” Walter Jones, a Republican congressman from North Carolina who has read the missing pages, contends. “It’s about the Bush Administration and its relationship with the Saudis.” Stephen Lynch, a Massachusetts Democrat, told me that the document is “stunning in its clarity,” and that it offers direct evidence of complicity on the part of certain Saudi individuals and entities in Al Qaeda’s attack on America. “Those twenty-eight pages tell a story that has been completely removed from the 9/11 Report,” Lynch maintains. Another congressman who has read the document said that the evidence of Saudi government support for the 9/11 hijacking is “very disturbing,” and that “the real question is whether it was sanctioned at the royal-family level or beneath that, and whether these leads were followed through.” Now, in a rare example of bipartisanship, Jones and Lynch have co-sponsored a resolution requesting that the Obama Administration declassify the pages."
    Wake up, not everyone loves us.
    http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/twenty-eight-pages
     
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    With friends like the Saudi's who needs enemies? Has it ever occurred to you the reason why it is a relatively "stable" ally?
     
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    Are you on some kind of medication?
    I have given you the site, this will be the third time.
    http://syrianrefugees.eu/
    I get paid to answer questions and Im afraid your free consultation is over. Would you like me to pm you my Paypal account so you can make a deposit and I can answer more of your questions? If you would learn how to do your own research you wouldn't have to beg other people to do it for you.
     
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    I've offered both the Guardian and Al Jazeera.
    And the videos do show civilians being shot.
     
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    No
    Irrespective of whether you linked a website you didn't say anything over than what you wrote.
    It's as simple as that.
    Simply linking a website doesn't state a point of view only the source of which it is based upon.
    I'll send you the bill.
    Sure send me you account details including passwords.
    Which I have
     
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    They are awfully pissed that we didn't fulfill our end of the petrol dollar deal and Obama got out smarted by Putin on the whole "bomb Syria" issue.
    Few understand the whole Kissinger created deal where we sold our young soldiers lives to the Saudis for them to only sell oil in USD.
     
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    Is this the liberal version of "I know you are but what am I"? You really need to work on your debating skills Pointdexter.
    "Irrespective of whether you linked a website you didn't say anything over than what you wrote.
    It's as simple as that."
    Speaking gibberish isn't helping your case.
    Here is the email address attached to my acct.
    you'reanidiot.com and my password is "p.i.s.s.o.f.f"
     
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    I think you need to learn to grow up and behave like an adult.
    I don't know why you feel the need to be abusive towards other people but quite frankly I don't care.
     
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    I think SOME is productive (shutting down extremist cells in Afghanistan), but other than that, spot on.
     

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