Syrian Christian Patriarchs Condemn Unjustified Attacks By US,FR,GB.

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  1. El Kabosh

    El Kabosh Well-Known Member

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    There's no need to misrepresent....it will not better your position by lying about me. I have no hatred towards Christians at all. You are an ignorant person!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ironic, as you attack Catholics on a regular basis
     
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    El Kabosh Well-Known Member

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    It's idiotic to claim that the poor and frightened people of Syria support that murdering thug, Assad....it's simply not true!
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    anyone who challenges Assad dissapears.

    permanently.
     
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  6. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When?
     
  7. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assad is loved by all Christians, for protecting them from the Christian head choppers that Washington supports. Damascus is packed with Christian refugees, as are other areas that are under the protection of the Syrian army. From what I heard, it was the prayers of nuns that cured his sister of cancer, and he has had a miraculous experience himself.

    Pictures speak louder than words.


     
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    I've come to the conclusion that you're just messing with us....there isn't a kernel of truth or reality in anything you write. The above paragraph being one of total absurdity. Even in an alternative universe, there wouldn't be any of it that's true!
     
  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now here's an American reporter in Syria, who is not from a MSM propaganda network. He said that everyone loves Assad, which is exactly what I heard from Syrians I know, and from the sources I read. They love the secular society, and do not want the sharia law that the terrorists we support want to impose on them

     
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    Kabosh, I intended to list the whole of the armed rebel groups in syria - in particular, those the US supports - and their philosophy (Islamist or not) to make you see what Assad is facing here, but the task is rather grueling. So here's a link, where each group can be clicked on for further research, or just sound out their names when it's making it obvious. There's quite a bunch:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War

    Out of two or three groups who sound secular enough (YPG/YPJ are the Kurds), the vast majority of Assad's opposition, like the ones who were holding Douma, are Islamists who throw gays off roofs, bomb show crowds in Europe, chop heads etc.

    I am not saying that using chems against them is okay - I am just pointing out the rather terrorist background of the Islamist oppo, that makes it rather plausible the possibility that they arranged the chem event.

    I am not defending Assad out of love neither. But like Hussein, there's nothing better. At least he isn't the monster his father was - and in this fact many saw in him weakness, which might explain part of the civil war.
     
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  11. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Syria is a civil war only in the propaganda networks of Washington DC. The Assad government is fighting foreign supported terrorists who want to impose sharia law on the Syrian people.

    As for seeing Assad as weak, you are probably right in this. To a jihadist, Nazi, neo con or anyone else of that ilk, secularism and tolerance of all faiths and humanity is perceived as weakness. Since they can't comprehend 'integrity', their minds can only project the worse.

    Assad was voted in by 88% of the people, and he has a responsibility towards them - especially towards the minorities who are dependent on him for their lives.
    Assad will never desert them, simply because it goes against his nature. A quarter of a million men have died so far to support the present government and their secular life style, so don't expect a change.
     
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    Thanks for the link....I will check it out.
     
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    See how beautiful Damascus and its people are. I can only imagine Aleppo was the same.
    I met a Syrian musician once at my academy, he was from Aleppo. He did his conservatory in Aleppo and was a professional musician. He later got a job as a oud teacher at our academy.
    He had to leave because of the sponsored horror imposed on them.

    Most people in the West probably don't realise these people had a normal life. How many Syrians have migrated to other places before this mess? Not so much.
    But people on this board aren't clueless people and they obviously know better. And it's beyond me how they can close their eyes and keep going with their fanatic support for the forces that wants to topple the government. You really have to have a trash can instead of a heart.
     
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  14. El Kabosh

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    There is definitely a who's who of players in that abortion called the Syrian civil war...it seems that everyone and their mother has got a finger in that pie. I'm just not convinced that the majority of Assad's rebel opponents are Islamists....though it's obvious that there are indeed some in Syrian Free Army!
     
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    I knew Syrians that moved back, and they were raving about Assad and how he made the country.

    At the beginning there were many rebels who felt they weren't getting a fair deal from Assad. As soon as they realized they were being taken advantage of by the jihadists, and that they wanted to impose Sharia law, many joined the Syrian army. I know that it took the Christians about two years to get permission to fight.

    When Russia entered, Lavrov started his diplomatic endeavors by running to all the Arab states including Iran and Iraq. He did manage to solve the grievances of about 100 rebel groups and reunited them with Assad.

    From what I had read, many of the fighters in the FSA were mercenaries and will fight for whoever pays them the most. So they were being trained by the Americans, and then would switch to ISIS or Al Nusra and take the American arms with them. As for ISIS, it was selling the Syrian oil in Raqqa to Erdogan's son Bilal, and in exchange received weapons. That stopped when Russia entered and began bombing the tanker trucks.

    As for Geneva, the problem other than Turkey who didn't want the Kurds represented was the US. Whenever Lavrov would discuss peace with Kerry, Kerry would call Washington and that was the end of that. When Obama was out of office, he said Kerry is a good man but Obama is evil. Even though Geneva is still ongoing, Russia realized it was no use and started the talks between Russia, Iran and Iraq. They managed to bring peace to certain areas and people are returning to their homes.

    Anyway this is what I picked up over the years.
     
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    Well, you're right about mercenaries and their allegiance to whoever pays the most....that's a problem that will never go away.
     
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    The other day, an amazing story took place on the air of France's central French channel "France Culture", in the program dedicated to the attacks of the United States, France and Great Britain on Syria. And it began with the fact that on April 14, 2018 the guest of this program was the famous French historian, sociologist and journalist - Dr. Emmanuel Todd. The man is extremely supportive of the Anglo-Saxon world and therefore, always considered part of the elite establishment. Of course, for the same reason the leaders did not expect any problems from him, on the contrary, he had to express his "sincere" admiration strikes by three countries on Syria.

    But…

    Literally from the first words, Todd suddenly stated that the Western press, in his opinion, is "insane," and that it "shapes the phantasmagoric image of a menacing, all-pervasive and totalitarian Moscow", while in fact, "Russia adheres to the position defensive recovery and she does not intend to threaten anyone. "
    "I'll be honest," he said. "For me, the strengthening of this mysterious Russophobia in the establishment of our countries is a complete mystery. The only explanation that comes to mind lies in the field of conspiracy, and otherwise explain the pathological fixation of the West in a country that does not possess the forces attributed to it is simply impossible! ... In recent months, our mentality has been overwhelmed by uncontrollable passions, and this already leads me to think about a mental disorder and full contrast with rationality. What can I say, if against this background, self-control from the Russian side looks to the French, and perhaps to any Western philistine - as an ambulance against the background of a crazy patient. People see how calm and rational Moscow is and in what hysteria is the press and diplomacy of the West. And if you add to this the fact that the intellectual level of Russian diplomats is initially much higher than that of Western diplomats, then the picture becomes completely unattractive. They have a vision of history, peace and their country, there is self-control, which they call professionalism, and in the Western elite today it is completely absent. "......

    "In general, you know. I recommend that everyone familiarize themselves with the articles of Lavrov and Putin! Of course, in the event that you have a desire to read really clever things. And at the same time that our media will never tell you about geopolitics "

     
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    Wow, this has the makings of a real 'watch this space' moment'? I'll bet Trump, May and Macron are ******** themselves.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If one believes as I do, that there are forces which influence our thoughts and mind, depending on the sphere of influence one is in, then what is going on in the western world can only be conceived as 'satanic'.

    I don't take this lightly, and from the little I observed from a historical viewpoint, this pulling away from the positive force of God, and the love that binds humanity can only lead to mass destruction. We had this before when the world sleep walked into WWI, where 20 thousand men were dying each day for apparently no reason and no gain, and which led to Europe's destruction in WWII.

    It is no coincidence that the occult was prevalent at the time, and especially among the nobility, which as a consequence of the war lost their exalted position as well as their sons. That the evil today is focusing on Russia, means it fears the positive and constructive influence that Russia is exerting on the world.
     
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    most religious leaders in Nazi Germany also praised Hitler.
     
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    Oh God - and you link to "the Hill" as support for your claim.

    You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. Assad has Christian Generals in his army and overwhelming support among Christians in Syria relative to the rebel opposition.

    As for the rest of the people of Syria - the crowds come out to cheer in towns that are liberated by the Syrian Army.
     
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    This is not true but, even if your claim was valid - how is this any different from the Land of Saud, any other Gulf nation, Russia, China and so on?
     
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    we're talking about Syria.

    try to focus
     
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    I addressed your Assad claim. Had you made a point - you would find that my subsequent comments are focused on that point.

    So then .. what is the point of your claim ?
     

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