Syrians celebrate peace deal,Syria shells them.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Midd...o-collapse-amid-tank-and-mortar-fire/(page)/2

Well that didnt take long.

 

Muhammed said war is deceit, suprise.

 

Assad becoming more ruthless...

Syria takes bloody turn; 250 killed in 11 days
11 Nov.`11 – Syrians snatched from their homes turn up dead, often mutilated. Soldiers gun down former comrades who defected to the opposition. A human rights group reports that electric shocks and hot iron rods are used to torture detainees.

 

This would be a good time for the neoZionists to withdraw from Syrian territory. A pacifying gesture for the purposes of regional peace.

Come to think of it, where are all the protests when Zionists kill Syrians ?

 

It's a well known fact that Islam encourages lying to further Islamic causes. And, of course, the Islamofascists try to divert blame on Israel for the crimes of the Assad regime.

 

Could you please explain this logic.

What makes you think this would pacify the Syrians?

Whats to protest, when "zionists" have killed syrians its generally the syrians own fault, can you say the same about the 3500 or so that have been killed since March in Syria, by their own govt?

 

Please provide evidence.

 

Understanding Taqiyya ― Islamic Principle of Lying for the Sake of Allah



Lying and cheating in the Arab world is not really a moral matter but a method of safeguarding honor and status, avoiding shame, and at all times exploiting possibilities, for those with the wits for it, deftly and expeditiously to convert shame into honor on their own account and vice versa for their opponents. If honor so demands, lies and cheating may become absolute imperatives.” [David Pryce-Jones, “The Closed Circle” An interpretation of the Arabs, p4]


“No dishonor attaches to such primary transactions as selling short weight, deceiving anyone about quality, quantity or kind of goods, cheating at gambling, and bearing false witness. The doer of these things is merely quicker off the mark than the next fellow; owing him nothing, he is not to be blamed for taking what he can.” [David Pryce-Jones, “The Closed Circle”, p38]


The word "Taqiyya" literally means: "Concealing, precaution, guarding.” It is employed in disguising one's beliefs, intentions, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions or strategies. In practical terms it is manifested as dissimulation, lying, deceiving, vexing and confounding with the intention of deflecting attention, foiling or pre-emptive blocking. It is currently employed in fending off and neutralising any criticism of Islam or Muslims.

http://www.islam-watch.org/Warner/Taqiyya-Islamic-Principle-Lying-for-Allah.htm

 

Not even half the picture from another spurious expert on Islam

So then, let's see you , despite your bady damaged credibility , turn your expertise to lies within christianity.

 

Can you?

You seem to have no problem telling us that its peoples own fault they get killed in this area.

 

35 maybe youd have some leeway...thirty five HUNDRED..nah.

These Syrian folk being slaughtered by the leaders werent running checkpoints or climbing fences were they?

Id just not bother trying to defend Assad.

 

the Shia equivalent to the Jewish Maranos? Conversos? yes?
the Spanish word for pigs

lying to conceal your true religion

 

How about protesting? Theyve certainly died in lots of other ways and in numbers over the years very similar in other places.

But hey, in palestine its their fault. In Syria its Assads.

For what its worth I agree with you of course re Assad.

 

It is what it is....I have a feeling most Palestinians have come to figure out a two state solution is the only way,after decades of rejectionism....now if they can just convince their leaders or elects leaders who understand this rather basic fact, they can correct their past mistakes.

Non violent protesters have been killed in the thousands in the past by Israel?

 

Like other ignorant bigots, you receive theological information from bigoted hate-sites.

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/1.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/2.html
http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter6b/3.html

 

I have a feeling most israelis have come to figure out they need to leave the occupied territories and end the seige of gaza, but after decades of rejectionism theres still too many land hungry hawks close to power. The palestinians gave up claims to palestine nearly two decades ago. And hamas has accepted negotiations with israel on the 67 borders.

Its about time the israelis corrected their past war mongering mistakes.

Palestinians death figures number well higher than in Syria. Remember you americans used to criticise palestinians for letting their kids throw rocks at occupying soldiers? Does it make you feel ashamed now?

 

What do people buying lattes in Rio have to do with Bashar murdering his own people with the help of iran and hezbollah?

 

Of course they have...as part of a peace agreement, in exchange for recognition, secure borders and the abandonment of the right of return. As a unilateral move it would be suicidal and counter-productive.

That's patently false. Hamas 'accepted' Palestine within 67 borders and with the right of return to Israel (non-starter) in exchange for 10 year of hudna. They certainly have not accepted Israel in any borders.

PS the thread was about Syria, you know.

 

Last time I checked the palestinians in charge have chosen not to recognize Israel, Israel has offered to recognize a Palestinian state. Hamas has only offered temporary ceasefires, but always intended to liberate Palestine eventually...their words not mine.

Warmongering is an Arab specialty, paradoxically theyre just not very good at it.

Why in the world I be ashamed? If palestinians taught their kids peace instead of resistance and life over death...things couldve been much much different for them.

 

Ah yes of course they have. Thats why their recognition of this need forced them to leave the west bank, east jerusalem and no longer do any settlement building over three decades ago right?

No not false, its an initial step in negotiation, a final settlement requires with Hamas requires the final settlement with all palestinians as is right and just. 10 years is plenty of time to work that out.

 

No the pals wont recognise as a jewish state as is right and just. Its the israeli insistence on that type of recognition that scuppers that point.

Hamas has not changed its charter much likud hasnt either. And even hamas recognises itself as only a part of a wider palestinian body politic.

The rest of your comments are mere anti arab bigotry. I wont accept that re the Jewish people who have resisted, or the arabs whove resisted, or anyone. Its not that I cant argue against it. Its just people who make such bigoted statements tend to have little to back it up anyway.

 

And why is that?

Wrong on both counts. Where does the Likud "charter" call for the destruction of all muslims?

And Hamas claims to represent all palestinians.

And yours are meaningless nonsense.

 

Because its useless to demand something that undermines the rights of arabs in israel when they can simply insist on recognition of israel as a state - which the pals will happily accept.

It doesnt. And neither does the hamas charter call for the destruction of all jews. 'Fight the jew' as youre about to quote doesnt mean kill all jewish people.

Do you subscirbe to such bigotry too? Im guessing yes.

 

You are kidding right? They demand the withdrawal to 1967 borders and the right of return (turning Israel in the arab-majority state) in exchange for nothing. If this is "an initial step in negotiation", what will there be left to negotiate? The location of the mass graves of Israeli jews? LOL seriously, get real.

 

Borat just won the thread.