Syria's Assad, warn West...

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  1. Message to Garcia

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    I am just curious what's going to come of this Arab Spring when the countries stabilize and have official governments again. Personally, I just see another dictator being elected changing nothing but the person in charge. America freed Iraq, and the first thing they did was write Shariah law into the Constitution.

    All democracy is is legitimized mob rule. Minorities don't tend to fair well in the Muslim states. Muslim or not.
     
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    Well I am more optimistic about Libya than about Egypt... and consider Yemen a lost cause.

    I keep hoping the Libyans will bring Prince Idris al-Senussi back, and the 1951 Constitution and go with some sort of constitutional monarchy.
     
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    I can't understand for the life of me why anyone would want a king? I like being a citizen with an equal say in politics as my peers have as opposed to being a subject under a leader who deems himself greater than my peers and myself.

    Just my opinion though. I could never bow to another man or woman. We are all born equal. There is no such thing as a greater person. Merits earn respect and position not unquestioned allegiance.
     
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    I simply think it would work for Libya... nobody bows to King Abdullah of KSA..
     
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    No one questions his authority either. It's a guaranteed jail sentence if not death. Kings should be a thing of the past.
     
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    The Saudi monarchy has to consult with the Shura council, the clergy, the family, the merchants, the tribes and the technocrats.

    That's their system of checks and balances.

    Its not divine right like it was in Europe.
     
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    Syria has the ability to offer unrest in the Middle East with support of Russia and China to ensure that US interests in the region are kept to a minimum. It's not as if the Arab nations will offer the US any support, because they won't as can be seen from events up to date.

    It's also an advantage to Arab nations to retain tensions at the UN between the US, Russia and China because anything that keeps the pot boiling retains the powder keg advantage that Arab states want to counter Israeli interests.
     
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    Syrian is odd man out.. Iran has horrific internal problems as well as a severe cash crunch.

    All the Arab states with the exception of Iran and Syria want peace in the ME and a curb on Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Houthis.

    As for Russia and China.. they have some friendly, mutually beneficial joint ventures all over the ME.

    See Iran's Bahraini Ambitions.
     
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    We should have left Iraq a couple of months after we got there and taken our troops and tanks to the Mediterranean Sea through Syria and Lebanon.
     
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    Americans should'nt have been so stupid to believe Bush-boy abt WMD's and foolishly invaded Iraq - Saddam had no connection with 9/ll nor with Al Qaeda.

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    Our politicians know that the rational minded folk here in our nations in the west are becoming tired of foreign interventions, and the killing of innocents by our armed forces, the flaunting of military might and the burning of the prospects of our own future generations, whom will remain enslaved to a national debt for decades to come, a debt which continues to grow and explodes, every time our governments involve themselves in military action.

    Our governments call for us all to accept the austerity being placed on us, yet they are not austere in regards to financial conduct in regards to bombing cities, killing innocents, forcing regime change and playing a global game of monopoly with the lives and futures of millions of citizens in hundreds of nations.

    There would possibly be further public outrage and a further addition to the occupy protests, bolstered by anti-war protesters and more poor, which our governments are ill equipped to deal with rationally, if there were to be western military intervention to take place in Syria right now and I believe our governments are going to take a small breather before committing themselves to another campaign, and possibly while taking a break, in which they will be dealing with the protesters in our cities.

    When the people rise up in the west, they play their part in foiling or delaying, the globalist elite's agenda, those elites that are sitting on top of a house of cards and the foundations of which are being shaken. However don't believe that if these protests continue the globalists won't give up without a fight, we've already seen what they're capable of pushing in the U.S, with police brutality and the over-protection and unashamed shielding of financial institutions, reminding us that, no matter how many times our governments say WE elected them, the reality is far different.
     
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    Tyrants should plan ahead,
    if i was a tyrant i would start to build my getaway villa the first day i get into office :cool:, buy an island, stash a 100 m $ (i dont have big eyes),
    then when things get too warm - hand over the keys and wave goodbye

    "y'know i used to have a country but i sold it, too much headache" is a great line to tell girls :sun:

    hope Asad isnt dum or he'll end up with a stick up his Ass
     
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    That will never happen, too much blood spilled, he will never have control like he did before, either he lose control over that area and have to deal with militia or he decides to destroy them and he will probebly lose his "throne" that way.
     
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    Better then waiting for it to be much ado about something.
     
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    I will never understand why Iran and Syria can't tend to their own business and do well in that choice.
     
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    Have you got any sources to substantiate that bullcrap?
     
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    Of course.. in March 2002 all 22 Arab states including Syria signed on the Saudi Peace Initiative.. Syria was the last to sign on.

    The particulars were: a guaranteed of Israel's security, recognition, full diplomatic and trade relations...

    And King Abdullah was sweetening the deal with a study to revamp TAPLINE with a spur to Haifa to provide Israel with cheap oil.
     
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    Nice dodge.
     
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    Oh the information has been posted dozens of times. Do your own homework for a change if you really want to get a grip on the issue.
     
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    You've admitted Syria signed the treaty albeit belatedly. Iran hasn't engaged in a pre-emptive act of aggression for centuries. Israel has invaded Syria and Lebanon in relatively recent years.
     
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    This site keeps crashing...it's doing my head in. It's about time this was sorted out.
     
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    The terms of the Saudi Peace initiative was that in return for guaranteed security, recognition, trade and diplomatic relations, the Israelis had to withdraw from Syria's Golan Heights, Lebanon's Shaaba Farms and the Palestinian West Bank..

    Ariel Sharon howled with laughter and mocked the plan.
     
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    Your assertion that "All the Arab states with the exception of Iran and Syria want peace in the ME and a curb on Hamas, Hezbollah and Al Houthis" is plainly false.
     
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    The GCC countries have been in the news for 2 years scolding HAMAS and Hezbollah.. Because both give the Israelis an excuse to continue expanding settlements.

    Don't you read the news?

    The various factions in Yemen are destroying the country.. They can pump oil, over 500 factories have closed.. There is increasing hunger and poverty is worse if that is possible.

    The Al Houthis are very tight with Iran.. Then there are the communists, the royalists, the rural warlords and Al Qaeda.

    Developments in Libya.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...professor-el-keib-interim-prime-minister.html
     
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