Taliban taking over Afghanistan again

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  1. Kranes56

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    And the irony has escaped your post...
     
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    Biden braces for brutal loss

    The Biden administration is preparing for the fall of Kabul and a retreat from any U.S. diplomatic presence in Afghanistan — a stunning reversal of expectations.

    • It's looking increasingly likely to high-ranking aides to President Biden that the U.S. will have no enduring diplomatic presence in Afghanistan beyond Aug. 31 — the date Biden has promised the full troop withdrawal will be complete.
    Why it matters: It's a major reversal from even a few weeks ago.

    • The working assumption in Biden’s inner circle had been that Kabul could hold for the short term, allowing the U.S. to stay diplomatically engaged and help Afghan women secure their rights beyond the U.S. withdrawal.
    • The 3,000 Marines and soldiers going in to help with the evacuation will also be gone by Aug. 31, we're told.
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.axios.com/politics-policy/
     
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    Why wouldn't we either take with or destroy these weapons?

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    Just posted video showing a provincial capitol swarming with Taliban.
     
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    Considering the Taliban is leftovers from the Cold War, and various extra national influences in the region it seems interference is the problem.
     
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    The Taliban signed a peace deal contingent on our withdraw.

    Clearly, they see weakness as they violated the treaty immediately upon out withdraw.

    That alone, I would have support complete wipi g out of the taliban with the full force and power of the United States military.

    No political pandering, weakness, nor mercy. They have never felt the full power of the US. Only enough to keep the peace and turn power over to Afghanistan leadership.
     
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    There’s no balls currently in the White House to do that.
     
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    It's more likely that Afghanistan and the middle east are less relevant to US strategic and economic interests.
     
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    True, but the US could have kept a small force there to stabilize the country. The violence was really winding down and it wouldn't have been too expensive to keep a thousand troops there, and provide air support when needed.
     
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    anybody who knows anything about Islam and Muhammad would not be the least bit surprised about this.

    This was how they conquered immense parts of Europe, and parts of China Africa and remote Islands
    If you wipe out the Taliban it's something else very similar will simply take its place.

    A country that allows the Taliban to rule it will allow anyone with equal or greater might to rule it.

    You can't give people power they have to take it with bayonets and bloodshed.
     
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    Wow, sounds like massive incompetence on the part of the Biden Administration.

    Will anyone care? Probably not.

    This seems like another Benghazi all over again, but just on a more massive scale. Democrats keep saying they don't like guns, yet they let weapons fall into the hands of terrorists. It's been TWO times now. First Obama and now Biden.

    If the media were truly honest and impartial, they'd be tearing Biden apart over this right now.
     
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    Wow and these are the guys Trump wanted to have at camp David?!?
     
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    Which guys?

    I can't believe US military generals would be this incompetent. The Biden Administration has to be preventing them from acting due to some political reasons.
     
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    Trump issued the withdraw orders after he lost the election, set them to be removed days before Biden took office

    now why do you think Trump would do that?
     
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    A fool may throw a stone into a well which a hundred wise men can not get out.

    Thank you President G. W. Bush!
     
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    You're not blaming Biden for this at all? It wouldn't have been that hard to hold the Taliban at bay.

    It's true they might have never disappeared but they were near the cusp of defeat, and would have had no chance of expanding unless they had been allowed to do so.
     
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    As I said "A fool may throw a stone into a well which a hundred wise men can not get out.".
    Many patriotic Americans are willing to sacrifice neighbors children to defend Afganistan, I am not.
    So what can one hundred wise men do in a corrupted country where the majority of population is willing to sacrifice their lives in order to live under Sharia law?
     
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    To try to attempt to have some sort of significant accomplishment in the eyes of swing voters who lean progressive and wanted America to totally get out of Afghanistan, because the election was coming up.

    He knew Biden would have probably done it anyway so he wanted to get the credit.

    Of course that was a mistake.

    Biden should have started pumping in troops the moment the Taliban started taking over.
     
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    Unbelievable.

    "It sure would be nice to wake up to a few mean tweets, a secure Southern Border, cheap gas and a President who knows what day of the week it is."

    https://twitter.com/WatchChad/status/1426221864796528648
     
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    Good... the Taliban should be in control to destroy the poppies and the sodomites.

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    he gave the order after he lost, but before Biden took office

    I agree with Trump's actions, just think he knew there would be backlash and wanted Biden to get the backlash as many would forget what Trump did

    the reality was, did not matter when we left, if was always going to get ugly when we did
     
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    Why not? I remember at the exit of Americans from Vietnam the public word was, "The Vietnamese are taking over Vietnam". What's the problem?

    No, Not for nothing. The Military-Industrial Complex made gazillions from the Amerian invasion and occupation of Afghanistan just as they did in Vietnam.
     
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