Tea party afraid Obamacare will be sucess

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mostly everyone who had decent insurance already, which is most of America.

    So now doubling premiums is not bad enough? They have to triple for it to become a horror story?

    You libs amaze me.

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    Show me proof of what you say.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Folks going on Medicaid does nothing to help out the premise of Obamacare. It is failing.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As many as 80% of Obamacare website visitors are being steered to welfare named Medicaid.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    this is a very large tax increase......No lib as come forward to explain where all this money is going to come from.
     
  5. Mr_Truth

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    I have already posted links for all this previously. Therefore, click on search for links.

    As for Fortune 500, they deduct costs on their 1120 forms. Nobody else does.

    As for Israel, we have given money to that govt for decades. Without it, their currency would be worthless and could not pay for the UHC it gives its citizenry. Same today with Afghanistan and Iraq whose constitutions were written by Republicans and which call for UHC.
     
  6. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    as for "governments should be constrained by written constitutions "right wingers"?"


    Whenever I have called for constraints on police who abuse minorities those same right wingers go silent. Moreover, where are those right wing advocates for government restraint when the government suddenly feels compelled to invade foreign countries??
     
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    misterveritis Banned

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    You should have just said you had nothing and moved on.

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    Do you have difficulties with answering straightforward questions?

    I believe you do.
     
  8. misterveritis

    misterveritis Banned

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    I get it. Being allowed to keep more of the money one earns is called a subsidy by the Marxists.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure they do.

    http://www.informationliberation.com/
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    you obviously don't follow this thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=299537
     
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    it could be, but libs want to keep their money AND spend yours. "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal"
     
  12. Recovering Conservative

    Recovering Conservative Active Member Past Donor

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    :roll: And social Darwinists always assume that if the police just vanished, that they'd really stand a chance against professional bandits. Or that there would still be an opportunity to earn money.

    If anarchy was really all that, how come none of you are moving to government-free places like Somalia?

    Yeah, I thought so.
     
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    FYI, still waiting for that Obamacare success.
     
  14. Mr_Truth

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    Actually, I have. Look closely and you'll see some right wingers defending cops when they should be condemning those government abuses.

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    Note how the right wing delusional fails to address the issues I raised.
     
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    two......out of 445 posts (0045% hardly worth counting)............don't count Palos..........he's all over the place, while you are condemning any one how doesn't stand with you. Personally, I don't care about you or you politics. I have no use for communism, socialism, or freakin monarchs. And I definitely have no use for Barry Obama. When he goes, you may go with him
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Check out the true story of Obamacare. Americans are suffering at the hands of their govt.

    http://mycancellation.com/
     
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    "Being allowed to keep more of the money one earns is called a subsidy by the Marxists."

    Was that it? Is that the sum total of your intellectual "horsepower"?

    I am very sorry for you.
     
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    Thank you for admitting to the hypocrisy and double standards of the treasonous right wing America haters.
     
  19. Mr_Truth

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    There's plenty of proof:


    Seniors Save Nearly $9 Billion on Prescription Drugs Thanks to the Affordable Care Act


    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013...prescription-drugs-thanks-affordable-care-act



    "Today, the Administration released new data showing that Affordable Care Act is helping more seniors save more money on their prescription drug costs.

    Since the Affordable Care Act was enacted, more than 7.3 million seniors and people with disabilities have saved $8.9 billion on their prescription drugs, an average of $1,209 per person since 2010.

    Before the Affordable Care Act, many people with Medicare Part D would pay out-of-pocket for the entire cost of prescription drugs once they hit the coverage gap in prescription drug benefits known as the “donut hole.” Beneficiaries continued paying full price for prescriptions until reaching catastrophic coverage.

    But under a discount program in the Affordable Care Act, anyone with a Medicare prescription drug plan who reached the prescription drug donut hole in 2010 got a $250 rebate. Beginning in 2011, beneficiaries who landed in the donut hole began receiving discounts on covered brand-name drugs and savings on generic drugs.

    In just the first 10 months of 2013, nearly 3.4 million people nationwide who reached the coverage gap this year have saved $2.9 billion, an average of $866 per beneficiary."


    .... more .....




    But wait - there's more good news:




    http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12...80-million-families-3-4-billion-premiums.html



    "Senator Al Franken released figures today highlighting more benefits of ObamaCare, including Franken’s own rule that if insurance companies don’t meet the new standards established by the ACA, they have to send consumers a rebate. “In 2012, more than 9,000 consumers in Minnesota benefited from an average rebate of approximately $300 per family,” Franken’s office said in a statement. "




    Right wing America haters cry. Patriots rejoice at this good news!
     
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    back to using blogs as proof... I expect no less from you.
    hell, slick, Obama has already said that blogs weren't justifiable sources and never relayed the news accurately..............even he doesn't read blogs :roflol:
    and Franken is a communist and a liar..............
    and you never explained why I should have to fund your health care
     
  21. Hoosier8

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    Well, there is definitely something positive for parents in Obamacare. With your daughter on your plan until age 26, you can threaten to revoke her health insurance if she marries that guy with the tattoo.
     
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    Here is another one of those benefits of Obamacare, age discrimination.

    If you do not make enough money to qualify for subsidized health care through an exchange, you automatically are enrolled in expanded Medicaid. The only hitch is that if you are 55 years or older, is is not free medical care but a loan. The government can bill your estate for your medical charges, all of them, meaning they can take your estate. If you qualify for the exchange, this does not happen.
     
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    No that was a valid question...a question that you couldn't answer, I see.

    That's very...ah..snarky, but the fact of the matter is that you're the one who has gone all-in on a dogma that you can't even explain. I'd feel sorry for you if I had any evidence that you were being forced into it, but since that is not evident, well...
     
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    The Affordable Care Act has nothing to do with people age 65 and older, they are under a different program. The Act only applies to people under age 65.
     
  25. Hoosier8

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    Yes, but of you are 55 or older and don't make enough money to qualify for Obamacare (138% of poverty), Medicaid is a loan and any assets can be confiscated to pay the bills if you pass.
     
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