Tell an Australian what the argument is against building a border wall.

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course it's not an argument! What made you think that it was? It was a response to your persistent question. Meant to help you a bit in your research.

    It's just a list. And it has nothing to do with my statement.
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    It is very simple. Back up your claim that extreme evangelical Christians think that gays are trying to destroy us.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even simpler: I refuse! It's a well-known en-devour of the evangelical extreme right Anybody in this country who has tuned into one of these crazy extremist evangelist will know what I mean.

    I could probably google some of their speeches or their websites. But I just ate a delicious dinner and the last thing I want is for my stomach to revolt.

    I don't know why you have such fear of google. But this is your opportunity to get over it.

    As I write this, I can't avoid remembering Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson the day after 9-11 discussing how the attacks were the gays' fault. Blech! There goes a perfect 100% Certified Angus Sirloin steak. Thanks, huh!
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Apologies for any stomach revolting, but the point is you're doing what the left is always accusing us on the right of doing - painting a group with the same brush. That list of churches which you posted - I'm convinced that you're under the impression that they are ALL "extreme" just because the hacks over at the SPLC have told you so when the fact is many are simply just evangelical Christians.
     
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    I'm painting all extreme-right Evangelical Christians with the same brush?

    Well.... that's what makes them extreme-right!


    And, as always, you would be wrong!

    I'm sure I've told you at least 5 or 6 times that every time you just "assume" what I believe, you will be wrong.
     
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    I think you're painting all Evangelical Christians with the same brush, in calling them all extreme. As in all Evangelical Christians have extreme beliefs such as anti-gay.

    So what was I supposed to think about this post?
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-a-border-wall.509418/page-26#post-1068419490
    You were clearly focusing on extreme Evangelical Christians when you pasted that list. If not, then how would you classify that list?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have said no such thing! Absolutely false!

    Your insistence in making up false arguments and ascribing them to me confirms that you're just here to waste our time.
     
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    Actually, no - I asked you how you would classify that list and you have not answered.
     
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    I would classify it... uhmmm... in alphabetical order (?)
     
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    Stop trying to avoid it and try again. What common description would you give to the groups in that list?
     
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    I dunno.... "groups that you should research if you're looking for anti-gay extremist religious groups", I guess.
     
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    Okay but how do you know that they are anti gay extremists? Because the SPLC told you so?
     
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    No wall is needed.

    President Obama deported 2.5 million illegals.

    Illegal immigration has been dropping for years.

    This is typical Trump retoric.

    Republicans need to send money to rebuild Puerto Rico.

    Trump really dropped the ball as President. Us citizens killed needlessly because of him !
     
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    How?
     
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    Took relief weeks to arrive. Trump too busy creating arguments with the NFL to worry about Americans in need. Much more could have been done. Americans died needlessly. It,s all on Trump.
     
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    I don't. You're the one doing the research.
     
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    I asked you to name one or more groups who you think are anti-gay extremists. You provided that list. Why?
     
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    Because those are the most likely to give you what you are looking for. I don't know or care about any groups. I only mentioned radical extremist Evangelicals. And I guess you wanted to find out if any of them belonged to particular organized groups. And you insisted that I help you. I refused to help you because I don't care enough to waste my time on that... But I provided a list I found of possible candidates for your research just to get you off my back. Why are you still on my back?
     
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    You mean commercial boat and plane travel? And swimming? Are you serious? You think its realistic for Mexicans to swim to the US? Oh come on now.
     
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    Ever hear of "Rio Grande"? Ever read how the racial slur "wetback" originated?
     
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    Sure it will be realistic for some, but not a significant amount. Anyway, you mean commercial boat and plane travel? Try not to avoid it this time.
     
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    Sure. Those too.
     
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    Okay, but don't you understand that when it comes to convicted criminals (which remember, is what I started this discussion about regarding the Kate Steinle killer) they will be on 'no travel lists', therefore would not be able to pass through a seaport or airport?
     

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