I know this is confusing, and I'm sorry about that, but in light of the developing civil unrest across the country, we're going to reverse a decision we made yesterday. The riots and civil unrest in the wake of the Zimmerman verdict have become much larger than simply a Zimmerman story - they're a major current event, and we need to create a venue where they can be discussed as such. But, at the same time, we don't want Current Events to become completely taken over by riot threads. So, we're creating a sub-forum in Current Events, and calling it "Post-Verdict Riots and Civil Unrest." Any stories relating to riots, demonstrations, vigilantism, or random acts of vengeance or other violence related to the Zimmerman verdict should go here. There is no limit to the number of threads - if you see a story or have an opinion you want to present, have at it. We'll merge duplicate threads if we see them, but there will be no other limitations on the number of threads in the forum. The temporary "Zimmerman" forum will remain open indefinitely for people to discuss anything and everything else related to the issue. Again, I'm sorry for the flip-flop, but as I said Monday, this is a rapidly changing situation and we're trying to adapt as it evolves. The riots are too big a story in and of themselves to be confined to the Zimmerman story at this point. Thank you for your patience and your understanding.
winterbear: yes, it is confusing, and you are making it more so. You now have three ongoing threads making new rules, then abandoning them...crowding out poster space for us. Like. I don't know where to post my stuff anymore, or who will even claim ownership of my stuff. I am asking for a sub-sub-subforum for myself where I can post my stuff without getting my stuff moved back and forth without my approval or consent. In that vein, I will suggest that you take all your posts off Current Events before current events overtakes you completely and post under forum rules. That way you will not be taking up bandwidth and space. Sit down and think the thing through and you will decide that the old way of fewer forums is best, as sub-forums, sub sub-forums and daily directions to posters simply does not measure up to our common intelligence quotient. And have a nice day doing all that...
...... No, it simply means that everyone has to quit posting their junk in Current Events only because it jams up one forum, leaving others lesser used, and under extreme conditions will crash and shut down Current Events temporarily from the sheer volume of posts.
That's about as well-stated as it could possible have been. Thank you! But at this point, I think it's pretty much run its course. There's very little activity in the sub-forum over the last 12 to 24 hours, so we can merge it back into Current Events.
I knew I should have created a rally group all across the nation to be prepared for the possiblity that OJ might be deemed not guilty. That black guy killed, not one, but two, of my white people. Damnit, I could be famous right now. This is only a race issue for people that have no argument, like always. This isn't the 60s.
Certainly the righties were all telling one another that riots were going to break out. They made the same prediction in 2008 for the Presidential election. And again in 2012. But the black guy is in the White House. The Angry White Men don't like it, but have not started their much ballyhooed insurrection, and no states have seceeded, although we are still waiting on part of Colorado. Texas didn't seceed, and they didn't build an aircraft carrier for the Idaho navy.......(or was it Wyoming?) What's a wingnut to do?????
All their Doomsday predictions...have failed. Remember America was supposed to "collapse" "if Obama is re-elected".....as well as the now FOUR YEAR OLD "hyperinflation" from "out of control spending" and "Iran will nuke Tel Aviv by March of 2010" and "Obama will 'hush Rush' with the Fairness Doctrine" (circa January 2009)... as well of course .....the "Romney landslide" which was supposed to "save" us.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/cbc-zimmerman-acquittal-could-spark-race-riots/article/1342491 You keep ignoring this and the fact that the Sanford Police were preparing for riots.. The Sanford police chief is... yes you guessed it... Black. Never mind the many times i have asked you to google Baja Arizona... http://www.nbcnews.com/id/41858048/ns/us_news-life/t/americas-st-state-baja-arizona/#.UfEq-215Gk8 You either ignore these links or you dont care in your flamebait attempts.. And your doing it in a thread started by an admin... Brazen.
Your completely wasting your time if you think for one minute that you have a legitimate point after all the ranting on right wing talk radio and here about riots that black people were supposed to be starting. Or the equally idiotic calls by various right wing politicians for secession and suggestions of civil unrest. No one takes the Washinton Examiner seriously at all. Its a trash blog.
According to some of our conservative friends we were supposed to be under martial law by now with the secret police army he was creating (as part of his evil scheme to turn America into a Muslim Caliphate).
From my understanding, the point of making a sub-thread on riots and civil unrest implies those are actually happening.
That and in a round about way a few posters are calling the mods "nutters" because they created said sub-thread to begin with.. Why create a forum unless you expect alot of traffic on that topic..... Quite funny actually. - - - Updated - - - Are you claiming Rye did not make those comments? Are are you saying the people pushing for Baja Arizona are now "right wing politicians"? Why did you not mention the Sanford Police Chief and that departments preperations for riots? Eh? Doesnt fit your agenda huh... To bad.
Yes, and they all went out and bought lots and lots of guns, and the gun industry responded by jacking up prices and creating an ammunition shortage so they could get more money out of their customers.
http://www.q-and-a.org/Transcript/?ProgramID=1395 LAMB: What happens if the jury would find him guilty or find Mr. Zimmerman not guilty? RYE: I think a not guilty verdict is extremely problematic in 2012. LAMB: What would it do? RYE: I’m not sure. I know folks have talked about race riots and . I don’t know that. And I think that we live in a day and age where people are educated enough not to do that. I know that his mother and his father have asked for peace; peaceful solutions, not retaliating, not rep Game set match... have a nice day.
No, I am claiming that you had to work very, very hard to find someone predicting riots who wasn't a right wing conservative. We all know you're playing games. Are you going to deny that Bill O'Rielly predicted race riots (since scrubbed from the Fox Noise website). How about the Washington Times running push polling asking their paranoid white audience if there was going to be riots (74% said yes). Sean Hannity: Fox News’ Sean Hannity — who had some personal involvement in the case as the only reporter George Zimmerman would speak with — spoke at length about officials in Florida “trying to improve race relations, so that we will not have riots.” He pointed out, “the mayor here says that it should be peaceful” before concluding, “that’s what we all hope.” Hannity also asked Mark Fuhrman, detective in the OJ Simpson murder case, “Mark, how on guard must [law enforcement] be?” Fuhrman added his own bias: “I think it’s pathetic that a court of law cannot be in a vacuum of the legal system without the influence of the public threatening to do great bodily harm to people and property. It’s really a prophetic statement nor our country.” Newt Gingrich: On CNN Monday morning, Gingrich lambasted anyone who saw racial implications in the Zimmerman case, but used an extremely racially charged term to describe the protestors. “I watch these protesters, none of whom read the transcript,” Gingrich said, “and all basically prepared to be a lynch mob. They wanted one verdict, and the verdict was guilty.” He then implied that protestors had “gone on to the streets and thrown things at police. ” The Washington Times: As Mother Jones reports, the conservative publication The Washington Times ran a poll online last week asking, “Will there be riots in Florida if George Zimmerman receives a not-guilty verdict by a jury of his peers?” Seventy-four percent of their readers answered yes. FOX’s Bill O’Reilly: In a live television discussion, host Bill O’Reilly accused Fox Contributor Juan Williams of “fueling the potential for violence,” which he said was a possibility if Zimmerman were acquitted, by discussing the case: O’REILLY: possibility for damage to be done to the fabric of the nation. if this verdict comes in as an acquittal. If it comes in as guilty, I don’t think there is going to be any violence. I think think there will be people that will be angry. [...] WILLIAMS: It just seems to me there is something crazy here when this black kid unarmed not hurting anybody gets shot and killed. O’REILLY: You are almost fueling the potential violence here by saying that. WILLIAMS: I’m not. O’REILLY: You are. Let the facts be presented and the jurors O’Reilly concluded the discussion by saying, the media should “try to tamp [any violence] down starting right now.” Townhall: Another conservative publication, Townhall, opened their story about the potential for violence this way: “Congratulations media, you’ve successfully turned a non-racial case into a full blown potential race riot.” Of course, there had been absolutely no violence to inspire the article. Instead, the Townhall writer quoted from an article that described how Florida Mayors were “coordinat[ing] ‘a response plan in anticipation of the verdict.’” Following the verdict, thousands of frustrated Americans, of all races, broke out into peaceful protests around the country, with a particularly huge protest in New York City. There were only a few smattered reports of violence in California. The huge majority of demonstrations were simply peaceful shows of solidarity by concerned citizens who used the phrase, “No justice, no peace” in a much more theoretical sense than their critics implied. Here is evidnece that a right wing website faked a claim of post trial riots, and got caught at it: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/07/these-are-not-race-riots-youre-looking/67191/ So, I gave you a sample of some of hte leading voices of the right wing noise machine predicting riots (Limpballs did too), and all you have is some obscure left wing group in Phoenix and a quote from a right trash blog.
She didn't say who those "folks" were, and since I documented that many of these "folks" were actually people like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'liely, game,set and match is hardly the words anyone could say about your response!
I seem to remember a few reports of some protestors bashing out windows and vandalizing cars. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)y, yes, but not the same as a full-scale riot.
And i documented that the quote was factual and not something made up by a right wing blog unless you think Cspan is now not legit with a full transcript and attached video ~
