Ten Killed in Pittsburgh Synagogue Shooting; Gunman Yelled 'All Jews Must Die'

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  1. Ddyad

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    Gun Free Zones = Killing Zones.

    When will they ever learn?
     
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    Which facts? The number of "incidents"? citation actually required here, you haven't provided one, and neither does the opinion from the Guardian. Citing the opinion piece doesn't substitute for the actual citation of fact here. Further, the "Whatever one believes about Trump’s position on Jewish people, one can’t deny that he has been content to indulge antisemitic views. The president has regularly courted the support of far-right groups including neo-Nazis, and was disgracefully slow to disown support offered to him by the likes of the KKK’s David Duke." is hyperbole. No factual basis for this assertion. None. So yes, one can clearly refute this assertion. Trump does not "indulge in" antisemtic views, nor does the president regularly court "far right and neo Nazi" groups. This can be regarded as a total lie. A baseless assertion. Take your pick, it is not accurate.

    Further, you being a non US citizen, is it your intent, as a foreigner here, to try to influence our national politics? It seems as much.
     
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    No he is not
     
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    Obama does not hate godless Jews-in-name-only

    Which is how most liberals feel about God’s chosen people
     
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    As I am sure you know by know, American Nazis and their ilk tend to support any Democrats over any Republican candidate - for rather obvious reasons.
     
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    He doesn't hate any other jew as well. LOL
     
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    Ty for sharing details about this evil beast's background and beliefs.
     
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    Yes, I can't believe... just as I couldn't believe what he said about KKK before and after Charleston ...
     
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    "It may seem ironic that Saturday’s shooting took place at the “Tree of Life” synagogue. But the term “Tree of Life” refers to the Torah itself, which endures, just as it has endured for millennia. It is the reason that, though we may die, we can never be destroyed.

    The Torah also commands us to use deadly force to stop someone who intends to kill others and cannot be stopped any other way. Thankfully, we have the Second Amendment. We should use it."

    https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amend...s-have-the-second-amendment-we-should-use-it/

    Joel B. Pollack, Senior Editor-at-Large, Breitbart News, winner of a 2018 Robert Novak Journalism Alumni Fellowship. Pollak was born a Jew in Johannesburg, SA.
     
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    I've seen numerous worryingly similar people online, at least as far as extreme anti-Semitism goes. One dude at Pravda said he felt nothing for the victims of this crime. For every shooter, there are many who at least quietly if not loudly applaud such acts.
     
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    Who kept catalyzing the hatred towards democrats and media groups broadcast on the same line by defending Democratic values even before his election???
     
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    Nearly 800 posts in the other thread! So nearly 1200 posts in just two threads. It's amazing that there are still posters who refuse to acknowledge that Bowers is far right - there is a word that describes that belief
     
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    I think it was Voltaire who suggested that for the clearest communication, one should "...define one's terms"

    So, in that same spirit, I think it would be helpful to clarify more precisely what is an "anti Semitic incident", how they compare to hostile acts against other groups of people and what actual numbers comprise: "...up 57% in 2007".
    Even though Arabs are also Semites, hostile acts against Arabs are not tallied as "anti Semitic".

    I think that it is also important to consider the source from which the information is drawn which, I think, is the ADL and only the ADL.

    Additionally, how do anti Semitic incidents compare to far more widely accepted anti Islamic incidents, killings & remarks etc or hostile incidents against Blacks, Hispanics & Asians in America?

    Finally, it is widely reported that this horrific massacre was the worst mass killing of Jews on American soil ever in American history.
    While it is of little consolation to those directly affected by this heinous crime, America's Jewish community is far safer in America than in most other countries & I hope remains so in the future.
     
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    as you should know by now, most white nationalists are republicans, as the people Trump called "fine people" in charlottesville showed us
     
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    why does that right call Jews Godless? don't they understand Christians believe in the exact same God as the Jewish do?
     
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    Many liberal Jews are religious secularists
     
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    most Americans believe in our secular legal system.. Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheists... not sure I see the issue there
     
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    What I mean is many liberal Jews do not practice their religion or take God seriously

    They are Jews in name only
     
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    so, they are free to believe what they want to believe, religious freedom for all... and yes that includes the Jews
     
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    I was asked why I referred to them as godless and I tried my best to explain it in the simpliest terms possible
     
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    They're still God's chosen people, even if they are only cultural Jews.
     
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    I get you, you were trying to distinguish between the Jewish people and the Jewish religion
     
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    Thats above my pay grade to decide
     
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    Yes
     
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    I think its easy for liberals to rely on the grade school talking points. And yet, here, this one isn't For folks even remotely sophisticated, this simplistic reliance on using political terms that in the US mean virtually nothing here is, well, stupid. We have folks in this country who are conservative for sure (standard use in the US for folks on the right). We also have plenty of folks who are fascists, neo fascists, communists etc who frankly all fall remarkably toward the left in the US. Meaning, the left/democrats in our nation recently, have all fomented towards some version of these end states. So, for folks in the US, equating fascism/neo-liberalism isn't conservative in like any way. These are radical paradigm shifts from traditional republicanism in this country. So, the only one who refuses to acknowledge what mr Bowers is, well, I suppose you already know that word. Right?
     

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