Tennessee lesbian couple faked hate crime and destroyed own home with arson..........

Yeah, how else can they get sympathy? They'll never get it without playing the homophobe card that you're so adamantly putting on display.

 

Doesn't have to be genetic to not be a choice. Already been down this road with you.

 

To prove what? Even assuming I can't, what do you expect that to prove?

 

it's a convenient cop-out whenever you can't back up the claims that gay is genetic. If you want to say "being gay is like being black", then prove it like you can with being born black.

I can mask my red hair, by shaving it, dying it, etc.... but I was born a redhead and I can't change that fact. And those genetics can be traced as to why I'm red headed.

Gay can not

 

Nope. It's just me pointing out your Strawman.

Ok. Choose to get an erection thinking about Gerard butlers body in 300.

Doesn't have to be genetic to not be a choice.

 

you try again and again, you claim you are born gay, yet can offer absolutely no proof of it.


As long as you don't require me to provide proof, I make 1 million a year and I'm hung 8 inches, flacid.


I mean, as long as noone has to prove any assertion, I'll just say whatever's most convenient to my argument, too. lol

 

This thread is a weak attempt at bashing lesbians. Thinly veiled homophobia. If arson and insurance fraud never happened, it might be news.

 

Idiots. Glad they were caught.

Although I'm curious if I'm supposed to be mad they were lesbians or more mad, or just a little mad but mostly mad about the arson.

What is my appropriate level of caring about them being lesbians supposed to be here?

 

are you actually advocating the elimination of "hate crimes"?

I guess you haven't noticed that many criminals use the gullibility of the public in an attempt to lay the blame elsewhere or justify their actions.

There is not slippery slope. Its pretty damn clear what a hate crime actually is. Calling somebody a name or disapproving of their "difference" is not a crime.
Using a prevailing current social issue as a cover, is not indicative of anything other than the criminal being opportunistic.

 

So, why is it a hate crime to target a gay to say, steal their rainbow flag and burn it, but it's not a hate crime for a lesbian couple to target a couple because they are straight, so they can commit insurance fraud?

 

I'm not gay. I'm reminding you the science shows it isn't a choice.

I have no idea how you think this is relevant.

You've been given the studies repeatedly.

 

way to avoid the entire issue people are upset about. It's not about the arson, it's about how a lesbian couple specifically targetted a heterosexual couple in commission of a crime.

 

it's always funny when someone who supports gay is so quick to deny they are gay and want to make sure noone thinks they are. lol


But no, science does not. No genetic proof of gay exists. There are people with an agenda saying they are gay since birth.... but no science

and there are just as many studies showing environment, or that it's a choice.... you just don't accept those because it goes against your faith that you are born gay.


I know there are studies.... but no proof. it's just a theory ATM.


So please, if you can't prove your case, don't say it.

 

Well, one is a hate crime because it was a direct assault against a person because of their sexual orientation, and the other was an accusation as an alibi and not a direct assault.

If making unsubstantiated accusations is a crime, then the entire republican congress would be under arrest.

 

Rahl and I are about as far apart politically as any two entities can be in this forum.

But we are in 100% agreement on this. Some folk are full-blown gay. And some not so much. Regardless, genetic predisposition is the primary factor. I have a gay sibling, who is hugely successful, and legally married to his partner. 60 years of direct contact, observation, and discussion, I have on this. Those who deny this are ignorant. To not acknowledge this is to be stupid.

That said, I am OK with a church dropping BSA. Their choice to make.

 

They didn't target him because he was heterosexual. The "targeting" was cover for their criminal action of arson to commit insurance fraud. What about that don't you understand? Once it was found out that the motivation for this was money, the hate crime nonsense went out the window.

 

Javis. Cut the BS. "Genetic proof" is still a long way off. You have no proof that it is a freely-made choice either. How many gays have you sat down with and asked them about how they became the way that they are? Answer: NONE !!!

I am more Conservative than you. Trust me. On this topic, on gays being predisposed to such, I would implore you to take a step back, and reconsider. You do not have the experience to state what you do.

 

You obviously think you can.

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Those would be the conservative ones. Like duh.

 

Usually to cover for a pastor who spent all of the tithes on himself.

 

The "discovery" of a homosexual gene is a liberal myth.

The nature vs. nurture debate is not settled.

Ancient pre helenistic Greece had a nearly 50% homosexual population because their government promoted homosexuality.

 

"I'm not one of them!".

Need to make that perfectly clear, eh?

"whew"

 

I think the problem is demonstrated well in your comment. Interpretation has everything to do with it.
You don't know why the guy stole the flag.... you just assume it's because he doesn't like gays.
Maybe he wanted to flag for his college dorm, to have fun with.
Why is it automatically "assault against gays" ?

Last year in Detroit, there was a man, Steven Utash, who hit a child in the road when the child carelessly stepped in front of his truck. He stopped, got out to see if the kid was OK, was attacked, called racial names, and 11 men beat the guy into a coma. Now, I know the libs will say they beat him up because he hit a kid, but black witnesses agreed these men called him racial names while they pummeled him nearly to death.
No "hate crime".

When the knockout game was more popular, "Polar Bear hunting" it was also called... attacking random white people hoping to knock them out and make it on YouTube. There were some that got caught in New York a couple years ago.
Also... not a "hate crime".

But steal a gay pride flag, as Javis pointed out... "hate crime".

There is no proof of "hate", there is only interpretation. Hitting a man in a bar is a crime. If that man can convince the judge it was because he was gay... now it's a worse crime. Doesn't matter if the straight guy even knew.

The hate crime law is ridiculous.

An example we'll never see, but I'll use....
A white man hitting a white man isn't somehow less criminal than a black man hitting a white man.
To charge them differently would be stupid.

 

like Jerry Seinfeld "I'M NOT GAY (not that there is anything wrong with that)"

it's funny when those that are most insecure with their sexuality try to both make sure you accept gay, so long as you don't think they are gay.

 

Lol...

"There's nothing wrong with being gay!.... not that I am one".

Always funny.





Anyway.... in before this exchange is reported/removed

 

YOU ARE A BIGOT IF YOU DON'T ACCEPT GAY.....

"are you gay"

NO, I'M A STRAIGHT GUY MARRIED WITH TWO KIDS, HERE IS A LIST OF GIRLS I FIND ATTRACTIVE FOR PROOF I'M NOT GAY"