Tennessee tourist arrested for bringing pistol into 9/11 Memorial

NYC law is violating your rights by not allowing legal possession of a self defense item.

 

when she took here concealed carry class someone should have told her about CC etiquette and what to do in certain circumstances. Keeping your mouth shut would have been the right thing to do in this circumstance.

Of course always expect big Lib cities to go absolutely postal on situations like this.

 

She asked one of the security guards where to check in her weapon.

Indeed she should have done so. I think more of the point here is, should this be allowed (the draconian gun laws) and three and a half years in prison?

Great point. The man in a billionaire and has pull everywhere.

She asked a security guard where to check it in, who directed her to the NYPD who arrested her.

I don't know about that. I don't think it goes that far. NYS and NYC ridiculous gun laws are no secret.

You are correct, NYS does not, even the different counties in NY have different gun laws, it is quite asinine.

Good think she didn't try and go through the metal detectors with it.

Shame isn't it?

 

All state laws are subject to the Federal Constitution. ..."the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed," is an idividual right, always has been, and always should be considered to be one.

Now all real socialists, whether they be mayor Bloomberg, Eric Holder, Pres Obama or Justices Stevens, Breyer, Ginsburg, etc., see it otherwise. None of them, not one gives one hoot in hell about the original meaning and intent of the Constitution as envisioned by our Founding Fathers.

 

Wyatt Earp= Our first socialist.

 

New York would be the last place i'd want to go without my gun. DC is the same way. I carry but i go through it, not take it downtown to sightsee if there are metal detectors. Last time i left my gun in a safe place where we were staying. And You NEVER tell anyone you have it on you. ONLY if you are asked when stopped by a cop. that's iffy though. Sometimes you are supposed to tell them immediately if they stop you. I've seen that backfire though if you have a super touchy cop. KNow your rights is the best thing. You do know that in a routine stop, if you have cc they get that info when they run a check on your license...in DC they'll ask you if you have your gun ON you and if you do....so long suckah.

 

Arizona was not a setteled state or equal part of the US at that time. Territories out West were much more law-abiding than popular culture would have you imagine. Law enforcement officials were on their own in the worst areas of the West, like Tombstone, and Federal laws were overlooked. Earp was in the wrong IMHO. I don't think he was a socialist, or he would have sent his cowboy enemies into gulags or forced them to work on communal farms.

 

New York is such a huge city that it wouldn't surprise me that they have a different set of laws to the state overall, and the heavy penalties for people carrying concealed weapons is a strong disincentive, and more tolerable and less expensive than having to be x rayed when arriving in the city. the laws are tough because, there is concern about illegal guns, and people carrying weapons could well be smuggling them in. to me, it seems like the law is sensible if they want to reduce gun related crime.

I would imagine that the three years is a maximum offence, and unlikely to be applied in a case like this.

the onus is on the person travelling to be aware of different laws. this is true wherever you are.

our speed limit is higher than in some other states. if I get picked up for speeding elsewhere, showing my licence from this state won't result in me not getting a fine.

 

rubbish. by carrying a concealed weapon in NY, you are disobeying the law.

if you want to carry a CC, then stay in places where this is legal.

 

only if NY has poorer securilty than is found in other parts of the world

 

I don't think a lot of gun nuts actually understand why that clause was in the constitution, which is why they behave like spoilt brats over issues like this.

 

she is an idiot for not checking gun laws. hell even i knew NYC is a no go for CC in most cases. hell this is a liberal cesspool where you can get a citation for warming up your vehicle for too long lol.

but in the end she was being honest and tried to check her gun in rather than try to sneak it in. give her a break, its an honest mistake and its not like she was some ghetto street thug carrying a stolen weapon or something.

at worst confiscate her weapon and let her go, enough damage has been done in this situation and a valuable lesson was learned. know the law of where you are going.

 

in cases like that, where there is no prior record and the offence is through a carelessness (as in being careless about checking laws pertaining to carrying guns ... which you would think you SHOULD check if you are going to carry a gun) a slap on the wrist such as a relatively small fine and possibly a suspended sentence would seem the most appropriate.

anything more in these circumstances would be playing politics IMHO

 

She deserves nothing more than a slap on the wrist. It is easy to understand her mistake. I've forgotten to leave my pocket knife behind when I've gone to the airport. Several times I didn't realize my mistake until after I had cleared security and boarded the aircraft.

As for checking local laws, do people check local driving laws when they travel? The laws do vary, sometimes significantly, but people rarely think to check them before they travel.

This woman came from an area where a lot of people carry weapons. Having a gun in your purse is as normal as having a lipstick or credit card. You wouldn't normally check to see if your keychain was legal in the state you are going to, so it is easy to understand why she might not have thought to check local gun laws. (Actually, that keychain might be illegal in some states if it is a tear-gas dispenser.)

Perhaps people should check local laws, but it is easy to understand when someone doesn't. Likewise it is easy to understand if she simply forgot to take it out of her purse when she went on vacation. Either way, she doesn't deserve to go to jail for breaking NYC's fascist weapon laws.

 

thats true ... and i guess in my case, there were speed signs around to remind me of the maximum speed.

lols ... I'm more likely to get a fine taking a short cut in my own state!

 

eh dont feel bad, i was once pulled over for "switching gears too fast" lol. i hadnt even had the chance to hit the speed limit yet lol.

 

switching gears too fast?

what was his problem?

 

She didn't have a license to carry in New York so the arrest was fair. However, because she was honest, the charges should be dropped and she should be left off with a warning.

 

Oh for Pete's sake. Here they will nab you for reckless driving or reckless endangerment, not sure what they call it, when you launch like that. You launching the M3 a little too much, eh? You ever seen someone with skill launch something AWD that is relatively stock? Now THAT is impressive, lol.

I agree, ignorance is no excuse, but in many cases the hand of the law has to recognize the motive and degree of the offense to lay down a sentence. In this case I think a fine and confiscation of the weapon would be a long lasting lesson learned for this lady.

 

Did you simply not READ my post, or did you merely not understand it?