Tens of Thousands About to Lose HC Coverage

Looks like insurers are dropping like flies. Saw this on another forum:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102005735


Leading Minnesota Obamacare insurer leaves market

Dan Mangan 3 Hours Ago

The "Blue Ox" of Minnesota Obamacare is calling it quits.

PreferredOne, the insurer that sold nearly 60 percent of all private health plans on Minnesota's Obamacare exchange, on Tuesday said it would leave that marketplace. PreferredOne's plans were the lowest-cost options on that exchange, known as MNSure.

More at link.

 

i didn't see any water, try to make a coherent point

 

The vast majority of the most damaging taxes, fees and regulations of ObamaCare have been postponed/delayed by Obama.

 

Yeah, twice, did you bother reading my post?

 

With Obama pushing back Mandates its never "worked" to begin with.

 

Are they really faking? Thanks to HC.gov we really don't know, do we?

 

so what? social security had a similar start, as do many new programs

 

In that PreferredOne is the only case in the entire country of an insurer withdrawing from an exchange (whereas dozens are joining them next year)?

"Dropping like flies" indeed!

 

And they are all failures.

 

get a grip on reality, it's you guys that are failures

 

The Obama administration said on Monday that it planned to terminate health insurance for 115,000 people on Oct. 1 because they had failed to prove that they were United States citizens or legal immigrants eligible for coverage under the Affordable Care Act. It also told 363,000 people that they could lose financial aid because their incomes could not be verified.

So, naysayers want illegals to be covered? Its difficult to prove one's income??

115,000 out of 310 million, is a small number. I can prove both my Nationality and Income, it isn't that darn difficult.

 

If it weren't for Obamacare, a lot more people would be dead right now since many with pre-existing conditions were unable to get insurance so I look at it as a win-win for the American people.

 

Social security's initial implementation was meant to be a supplemental insurance. Today, people think and demand it to be their only income. There is no account with your name on it. The people retiring today are being paid for by the working people of today. It is a pay as you go system.

All entitlement programs creates dependency. Without any means testing or work requirements, there is no reason for people to get off of entitlement programs.

All these programs have created a $17+ trillion dollar debt in which we pay for our current operating expense by printed and borrowed money.

All these programs are failures.

 

your argument is the failure, social security benefits our people and the economy

just like a national healthcare policy does


Social Security’s Impact on the National Economy

Social Security is a critical federal program that promotes income stability among households in the United States. It does so by providing a steady stream of income to replace lost wages due to retirement, disability, or death. The role that Social Security benefits play in the economic security of the 57 million people who received it in 2012 is well known, but its importance to the broader economy has received little attention.

As this research report shows, Social Security benefits play a key role in the economy, supporting over 9 million jobs across the country and more than a trillion dollars of economic output. Social Security has a much greater impact on the economy than just the amount of its benefit payments because when Social Security beneficiaries spend their monthly benefit checks, the effects ripple through the economy. These benefits in turn help every State where benefits are spent.

This research report quantifies the impact Social Security benefits have on the U.S. economy and the economies of every state.

http://www.aarp.org/work/social-security/info-09-2013/social-security-impact-on-the-national-economy-AARP-ppi-econ-sec.html

 

Yeah, 115,000 people who aren't citizens and can't vote will lose there health care subsidies......Obama will never get re-elected now

 

I thought conservatives didn't want to pay for healthcare for immigrants. Which is it?

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SO much for the right's "vote buying' theory.

 

It's not a win-win for the American people, it's win-win for big fed. We didn't need big fed to take over the insurance market to cover folks with pre-existing conditions, we only needed common sense legislation.

 

You mean 'not for ILLEGAL immigrants', right?

 

You'd better watch out, or you'll wind up in a FEMA concentrations camp!

 

The alternative was to eventually lose all health insurance coverage(cost). And insurance companies would not like that. So, they had the Fed Gov go out and get em more customers.

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Maybe one day the 'reps', will stop angering women and minorities. Probably won't happen tho.

 

Do you think the right will get on board? Fix the system that was essentially the right's baby to start with?
Or will they just whine and complain and point fingers and say, see, I told ya so. So far its been the latter.

 

It's tax the have's to help the have nots. And what will the sick do when sick? Crawl in bed and die? Or go to some health care facility for treatment. And if they can't pay, who eventually pays? You and I who have insurance or pay taxes. Because no health care facility is going to turn a sick person away and face law suits if they die.

Some one pays, one way or another.

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But insurance companies don't want to pay out to the sick. So when they get sick, they kick em out of the program. An insurance company would want to pay out $0.00 to claims. That is the goal.

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So in the overall scheme, what % of companies actually cut the hours and full time jobs? 0.1%, 0.5%, 1%?

 

True patriots weeping and aghast at the prospect of thousands in one state who will have to "lose health care" but couldn't have cared any less when millions didn't have any to begin with.

 

I wonder...those may be the surface reasons and the numbers cited might not be accurate. You might have to llok into the situation deeper to find out the what's and the why's of this.

It's probably more prudent to take a good long look at health care as a whole and then compare health care's situation after ACA has taken effect. Even so, this is just the beginning so it's hard to tell for sure. Each side is trying to seize on every kernel of good or bad they can possibly attribute to their argument, but you'd have to wait a little longer for definitive and substantial criticisms...for better or worse.

The best way to challenge to ACA besides that is to have read and understood the policy, itself, what it's asking for, and it's effects. Something I am not sure many people in government who voted on the thing actually got around to doing. Suspicious...but we'll see.

 

AARP? LMFAO!