The American threat and agenda

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  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    After all the talks about the so-called China threat and agenda, it's time to look at the American threat and agenda on other side of the Pacific especially after reading this guy's boastful threat in the link below:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...o-1-target-us-next-india-do-you-agree-16.html
     
  2. lynx

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    America's agenda to conquer the world itself is a threat to the world and its people. American corporations and bankers are the worst. Exporting poverty everywhere. War after war just to fulfill that dream, without even concerning her own people as they lost their jobs and are starving on the street. Culturally, America impose its immoral values, try to tanish our youth.

    I seriously suspect that America is the mystery Babylon described in the Bible.
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

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    Are you an American citizen?
     
  4. raymondo

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    A very reasonable commentary , lynx .
    But with the end of the Empire now at hand , it's probably kindest not to puncture their narrow mind set .
     
  5. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    Where has the U.S. exported poverty?
     
  6. Albert Di Salvo

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    The Vietnamese don't see America as a threat. Neither do the Filipinos.
     
  7. Beevee

    Beevee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nor will the Iraqis, Afghans or Libyans because future US history books will tell you so.
     
  8. Albert Di Salvo

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    The peoples of India, Tibet and Xinjiang don't see America as a threat.
     
  9. lynx

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    A very good advise, raymondo.

    But in the end the truth shall come out.
     
  10. lynx

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    Almost everywhere. In South and Central Americas, US send Economic Hit man to countries like Ecuador, Peru...In Asia, Indonesia, Thailand.....to burden them with loans that they can't really repay....

    America's solo power to print currency give her the unique position to transfer some of her economic problem to the world.

    The dominate position of the dollar

    IMF, Wall Street and American corporations, etc.
     
  11. Albert Di Salvo

    Albert Di Salvo New Member

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    America has exported jobs to China. The jobs of Americans are being performed by Chinese. That's not a good thing. Americans shouldn't be out of work. Don't you agree?

    What has America got in exchange for all the jobs it has sent to China? Not much.
     
  12. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    How were these countries doing economically beforehand?

    The U.S. also isn't the only country in the world that can print currency.
     
  13. Beevee

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    Perhaps then they shouldn't have bought all US debt and let your country sink, like Greece.

    Some country or another has to save the American people from themselves.
     
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    The US Treasury indebtedness held by the Chinese is dammmmmmm close to worthless. America will either print money and inflate its way out of the indebtedness or it will outright repudiate the obligations.
     
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    Known as hyper inflation when $2,000 buys a half pint of milk.

    Your contempt for anything other than American is not surprising however.
     
  16. Albert Di Salvo

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    The only people I hold in contempt are American leftists.
     
  17. lynx

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    American corporations sent jobs oversea is because they want to maxium their profits. Totally base on self-interests. Yes, China take advantage of such opportunity to lift millions of Chinese out of poverty, it is correct for Chinese government to do that, you have to understand, Chinese government is only responsible for its own people, not Americans. You are complaining outsources, then, blame your government, because it didn't stand up for the people, which is American government suppose to do, for it is responsibe for its own people.

    You ought to think about why do American government become like this?

    Besides, Ameicans don't really want to do the manufuring jobs that send to China.

    But the tech and services jobs sent to India are different, those are jobs that Americans really want to keep, and need to be. Americans really want jobs, should really say something and fight for it.



    For Americans people, they get to buy affordable products which Chinese can't even pay the same price for the same products even if made in China, the Chinese have to pay a higher price. And remember, when China get the dollars for selling products, they will eventually have to buy American bonds, which in turn, America get the product for free.
     
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    Little Sister,

    Do you have any idea how easy it would be to turn the American people into haters of the Chinese people? It would be very easy because America's jobs are being done by the Chinese people who took those jobs away. America is fertile soil for hatred of all things Chinese. Do you know who Vincent Chin was?
     
  19. IgnoranceisBliss

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    The government won't do that. Don't forget that the majority of U.S. debt is owned by the American people.

    So many people have this misconception that China "owns the U.S." This is patently false.
     
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    China didn't take those jobs. It was a natural byproduct of globalization and increasing U.S. prosperity. If not China it'd be Laos, Vietnam, India, or even South America. China does have predatory currency policies and no regard for intellectual or corporate rights, but they didn't "steal" U.S. jobs; they were given them.
     
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    Get with the program.

    That's way too complicated for poorly educated Americans who can't accept their own failure. What they find plausible is victimhood. Americans are victims of the predatory Chinese. You know as well as I do that this is the explanation that will resonate with Americans. It's easy to explain and to understand.
     
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    I'll bet you weren't that bothered when the shoe was on the other foot and the US bought up most of the British motor industry before consigning it's workers to the dole.
     
  23. Albert Di Salvo

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    There are two kinds of people in the world. Americans and Non-Americans. You always favor your own kind. Btw, Canadians can be characterized as Americans for this purpose.
     
  24. Mushroom

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    These are truths that these conspiracy nuts never seem to get. No matter how much you explain it to them, even show proof, they still cling to their conspiracy.

    And most of those jobs were already overseas. The vast majority were not taken from the US, but rather by other Pacific Rim nations. Countries like Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, and the like.

    As an example, look at Levi-Strauss. At one time, they owned 63 factories in the United States. Now they own none (the last closed in the early 1990's), and only work with 23 US companies, which produce the roughly 3% of their jeans which are "Made in the USA". And in the early 1990's, the major locations for production were Thailand, Indonesia, and the Philippines.

    Now, around half of them are made in China. This is not because of "Corporate Greed", but simply because they need to keep prices down. In the last 20 years, I have seen the prices of Levi 501XX jump from $25 a pair, to $42 a pair. If they had not exported most of the manufacturing overseas, the cost would probably be closer to $60 a pair.

    To put it simply, it is generally not profitable for a company to do basic manufacturing in the US. Taxes and Unions have made it almost unprofitable to manufacture a prodict and be competitive when they sell it.

    And go ahead, look in your closet. Tell me how much of what you find is "Made in the USA". How many of you even look before you buy something to see where it was made? Will you pay 20% more for a US made item, instead of something of similar quality but of lesser cost?

    If you really want jobs returned to the US, then everybody needs to start acting like it, and buying only US made items. But nobody really seems to care, they all want the bargain.

    And that is why everything from cars and TVs to DVD players and clothes are now imported. Because everybody in the US only cares about cost, not country of origin.

    And what is that, but maximizing your own profit?

    But the leftists and conspiracy nuts just don't get it. They want a boogie man to slander, not realize that they themselves created it.
     
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    I saw a programme on a British TV channel recently, about how American skilled workers were losing many jobs, due to the fact that some very large civil projects such as bridge construction in the US now being given to Chinese firms.
    How do Americans here feel about some of their large corporations giving billions to Chinese companies for these vast civil engineering projects.....while at the same time condeming their own skilled workers to the job centre?
     

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