The AR15 IS a weapon of war and IS designed to kill people!!!!!

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    There's no right to repeal or amend the constitution.
    There's a process.
    That process takes 2/3 of Congress and 38 state legislatures to agree.
    As such, that process will never be fully applied to the 2nd Amendment.
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    proof

     
  3. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    that's why the gun banners want justices who ignore the purpose, meaning and intent of the second amendment and pretend it doesn't say what it does
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I want to ban all guns and rifles, but why is that "harassing lawful gun owners" or being "leftwing" or "not doing anything that harms criminals"? You are saying that I am one of those "y'all" people. Those are your words. So what's that all about?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ..... a ..... n ..... d ..... that's called "a right".
    That's extremely short-sighted.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a lot of quoting from me but where is the part that you call "proof" of me "harassing lawful gun owners" or being "leftwing" or "not doing anything that harms criminals"?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    so you want a society where only the government and criminals have firearms. Sounds like "Schindler's List" or "The Killing Fields"
     
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    You just admitted you wanted to ban all privately owned firearms. That, by definition is harassing lawful gun owners
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't understand how so many absurd conclusions can be made so consistently. :alcoholic:
     
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    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    What did you mean by "I want to ban all guns and rifles"?
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    apparently they don't even understand the obvious consequences of what they want
     
  12. Thingamabob

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    gun = a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.

    ban = officially or legally prohibit.

    all = used to refer to the whole quantity or extent of a particular group or thing..
     
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    How would this not harass lawful gun owners?

    How would this not help criminals?
     
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    If guns are banned they wouldn't be "lawful gun owners". Is that not obvious?
    What did you mean by "not help criminals"?
     
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    If guns are banned they'd immediately be unbanned, as banning is unconstitutional. All of your efforts prior to such a ban count as harassment.
    Wouldn't armed criminals consider an environment with just unarmed victims to be an advantage?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you saying that the Constitution doesn't abide by the rules, regulations, and stipulations of the Constitution itself?
    That makes no sense.
    Why?
     
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    "Banning" is a legislative action; the Constitutionality of such a ban is determined by the Judiciary.

    You're trying to remove the rights of law abiding citizens. I'd considerthat harassmentand more.
    Because your ban won't take a single gun away from criminals who will use them on an unarmed populace.
     
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    Besides China, North Korea and Venezuela who has banned all guns?
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's a fair correctionality and it's the informationality of it that I'm trying to tell you.
    It's not a "right" if it's illegal and if it's illegal then gun-owners are not "law-abiding". . Is that still not obvious?
    If you don't understand the falsiality of what you just said then I'm not going to waste a single second explaining it to you.
     
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    You're not here for the hunting, are you?
     
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    What did you mean by "the hunting?
     
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    let me explain the obvious

    criminals already ignore gun bans because in the USA, anyone with a felony cannot legally possess any modern (cartridge) firearm

    if your wet dream of banning all guns happened-you have only impacted those who once could legally own guns. Criminals would still own them as they do now

    your scheme would result in a society where law abiding people are disarmed while criminals remained armed

    QED-you want criminals to have a safe working environment
     
  23. Thingamabob

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    Oh, my. How an armed citizen can be considered "law-abiding" in a country where guns are illegal is one of those fantasies reserved for the ****-*****.
    :alcoholic:
    UYA-yeah, sure. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
     
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    your argument is really interesting. If guns are banned-the only people you are hurting are those who were able to own guns prior to the ban. I don't know if you are being obtuse on purpose or if you actually don't understand your own point
     
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    Your plan would leave law abiding citizens unarmed and criminals armed. Why is this desirable?
     

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