The Atheist 'Pay 50 Shekels for a Rape, Get A Rape' Myth

That doesn't answer my question.

 

important point.

 

Nonsense, by that reason you can never say I want to take out the garbage. You're playing word games.

 

Astounding comment bolded above, mine.


That is hilarious and SOOOOO typical of christians...shoving the blame for their OWN OP onto atheists....shoving the blame for everything onto anyone else....no responsibility is too big or too small for a chiristian to duck....

 

I get you're not man enough to admit that atheist canard is bunk after been proven wrong.

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I didn't say that a choice between two evils and a want couldn't coincide. They absolutely could. You are equivocating and making them out to be the same thing. You are playing word games. You cited an example of a woman forced to make such a decision as an indication that she actually wanted the thing she chose. (Excuse me while I hold back vomit at the thought of someone intimating that a woman actually wanted something that was forced on her.) Absent the situation in which a woman is forced to marry her attacker or face a fate she perceives to be worse, do you think any woman would ever choose to marry her attacker? Saying that making that choice is the same as wanting it is the kind of logic used by pedophiles when talking about being seduced by their victims. It's the logic used by rapists who say the victim was dressed provocatively. This is plain as day.

 

Do you not understand that sometimes we choose the lesser of two evils? A greater evil would be forced to turn to prostitution or starvation. Whatever, since it turns out it wasn't really about rape it is a moot point.

 

So, if the bible is translated so as to please the reader in the matter of the word rape, which to the
tender apparently means "happily consensual" (very odd translation but what the hey.._

Now, suppose it ere is an actual instance of forcible rape, what passage in this allegedly holy book actually does address that?

Its actually a more important issue than boy and girl getting carried away in the hay.

 

Yes, but that is starkly different from wanting the thing you chose. You cited an example of someone choosing the lesser of two evils earlier, and said that meant she wanted the thing she chose. They are not the same thing. Do you understand that a choice made under duress is not the same as wanting what was chosen?

Edit: And this is definitely not a moot point given the issue of religious folk bending over backwards and eschewing their own moral judgment to defend a monstrous god. I already acknowledged that the forced marriage is far less egregious if the Bible is actually talking about rape. What then is disturbing is the vociferous defending of the passage even when it was thought that the subject was rape. The Bible is no longer the more worrisome part of this thread, but rather the lengths believers went to (and continue to go to) in defense of something so morally reprehensible.

 

What prevented god from providing a BETTER lesser of two evils?

 

To my admittedly untrained reading, the same passage applies if there isn't any distinction made. Forcible rape is still premarital sex. Nothing in the new translation seems to indicate that the sex in question must be consensual. And Paul7 has pointed out a time when a woman allegedly chose one of the options available under this particular law after being raped. So the more I think about it, the more the new translation may not be important since it seems to still include rape.

 

How does an atheist even come up with a moral standard to decide what is monstrous? A dead universe doesn't care, under that world-view, might makes right.

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People misusing free will, just like you do.

 

But when looked at from trained people with more knowledge than you and I, it is clear it does not mean rape.

A big difference between rape and consensual sex.

Yes it does.

She wanted to choose that option, but was prevented due to the dreaded patriarchal system, her father didn't let her.

 

People misusing free will are why god couldn't come up with a more just solution?
You know that is a completely illogical response, don't you?

 

Repulsive culture, repulsive book, repulsive values, and, repulsive bitter clingers
who keep it alive.

 

Now you're telling your God that the wording was wrong in his book! it just could not get any funnier!

You obviously did not understand that no atheist can argue against god!

There are times though where as impossible as it would be, I cannot help but feel it might be easier if we could!! he might have some concept of logic!

 

Why would I post it if I thought that? Who's the illogical one here? Do you want God forcing you to behave according to His will?

 

Translation,obviously, not the original. Want to admit that atheist argument is bunk?

You will get your chance, be patient.