The Batman movie massacre so obvious it is a false flag to take your guns away

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  1. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    9-7-2012 at 7:45 pm? Are we talking about the same one? Maybe I clicked a different link in this thread, regardless...it was a bit freaky.
     
  2. junius. fils

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    Just what we need. Another plot from the whoop-whoop-group.

    RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! THEY'RE OUT TO GET US!

    Stick to crop circles, black helicopters, and little green men from Mars. They're funnier.
     
  3. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    Get back to realaistic arguments, if you have any.

    No evidence exists of that. It was an al Qaeda operation and most of the planners died and the Sheik of the operation died in a raid in Afghanistan. Read the newspapers.

    99.9% of sane people think this is far fetched.

    USS Liberty was a screw-up. We should not have had an intelligence-gathering ship there without very carefully-arranged permission of the Israeli and Egyptian governments. Either side would get very nervous about that sort of thing.
     
  4. leftysergeant

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    Maybe he has connections to some sort of white nationalist group. They have access to somme scary stuff. Stormfront even encourages dirtbags to join the Army for the opportunity to gain some training and to steal some stuff.
     
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    <IF> Marius New Member

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    A student, studing in neuroscience, who managed to make it into the top 6 placed for what amounts to a very good scholarship and grant is an "unemployed (*)(*)(*)(*)"?

    Oh gee, who would have thought the gun-nut conspiracy theorist would be against education.
     
  7. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I've seen some far-fetched theories stated here, but this one really takes the cake.

    Politicizing tragedies is a despicable thing that both sides engage in, but suggesting that this was planned by the government is just retardedly stupid.
     
  8. Ivor

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    Right. Because he said something VIOLENT would happen 2 weeks before it did, and it did happen. Just because you don't like his message doesnt mean he wasnt correct.


    You are the one that needs medicated. Unfortunately they dont make a pill for what you have.
     
  9. Ivor

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    For sure.

    Our govt would never harm its own citizens to get its way. Nor would they stage false flag events to start wars.

    They firmly uphold your 2nd amendment rights and want nothing more than for us to keep it.
     
  10. leftysergeant

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    White nationalist whackadoodles like to rant about Bohemian Grove and the cult of Molech. They want the government destsabilized.

    Maybe the shooter is one of them. They would have access to or know how to obrtain a lot of the crap that Holmes used.
     
  11. Ivor

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    No. Hes not. Hes a govt project put in motion by allies of Barry Soetoro and worshippers of Lucifer.
     
  12. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes,in most False Flag the Patsy is eliminated so as to not further complicate matters.
    However if a Patsy is truly innocent then any elimination will roundly be questioned
    somewhere in time.It's better to have him declared Insane and put away.
    Of course I could be entirely incorrect about this Holmes person.Nobody really knows
    too much about him.But we DO know some of the specifics the time of the shooting.
    I think the way the shooting is handled will play a major part.
    It already has.Like the Boobie trapped apartment in a predominantly Black
    neighborhood and the fact he was a Recluse.Maybe Holmes never actually lived there.
    That would explain his being a recluse.The G-men got to him early on and
    controlled him and set his digs up.Managed his Gun sales via his computer.
    Because it makes sense.Wouldn't Holmes have to physically go to a gun
    store and buy a weapon.This business he did most of this somehow online
    boggles the mind.This whole thing reeks of False Flag.
    A False Flag to have Obama swoop in and reassure Americans how much concern
    he has for their safety.How devastated he is that this happenned.
    Yet not one degree of concern over Brian Terry and and all the mexicans who lost
    their lives in - Fast & Furious -,even though Obama saw fit to enact some form of the
    Dream Act.
     
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    It's not inconceivable.
     
  14. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So then you trust the TSA.Because they ARE the Government.
    Next time you go thru a Major Airport with yer grandkids and one is disabled and has Polio
    crutches and is hassled going thru that metal detecting device and told they have
    to go thru w/o any crutches or face a full body naked body cavity search in some
    room.
    That TSA now being given special uniforms and even marshall badges to enforce
    federally.Even though they are totally untrained and couldn't pass basic
    qualification to work at most dog pounds.Some even have Criminal history.
     
  15. Ivor

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    It is creepy. But these things are to be expected in the times we live.

    Its only going to get creepier, rapidly.

    At least you read the link with an open mind, some people cant even find it and others are scared by what it could mean so they go on the offensive.

    *cheers*:coffeemachine:
     
  16. Serfin' USA

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    How does this apply to the TSA?

    Look, I think what we do at airports is probably pretty overboard as well, but you know how this works, right?

    Let's say we disbanded the TSA. The next hijacking occurs, and guess who gets blamed? The government.

    The TSA is basically just a stopgap measure for both dealing with terror threats and making people feel safe enough to still fly. Is it actually as effective at its mission as it should be? Probably not, but even if we got rid of it, then airlines themselves would employ their own security measures, and then we'd be back at square one.
     
  17. Serfin' USA

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    Look, if you're going to believe in a conspiracy, at least limit it to something believable.

    The theory expressed in the OP is just as ridiculous as the 9/11 truther one or the fake moon landing one.

    The government has done some pretty messed up things, but they wouldn't stage a theater shooting to take away your guns in response.

    You know why? Because it's political suicide. For better or worse, people care more about their gun rights here than anything else. The Patriot Act and the NDAA detention clause have passed with little to no protests, but an all-out federal ban on guns would enrage the masses like nothing before.

    So no, this isn't a false flag, because no amount of theater shootings is going to suddenly make the average person believe their own right to carry a weapon should be removed.

    A false flag is going to be more aimed at something the public can get behind. A theater shooting has no payoff.
     
  18. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are uninformed.That TSA has been given marshalls authority to basically act as if
    Federal Agents.Meaning they can enforce road checkpoints.Tennessee Congresswoman
    Marsha Blackburn has drafted Congressional legislation to STOP this Government
    usurping of authority that was meant for Airports and had now been expanded to include
    statewide road checkpoint inspections with arrests.
    You do know that I hope.That the TSA has basic authoity outside Airports now,
    to set up roadside checkpoints and hassle vehicles.
    The TSA was never intended for anything outside Airports.In fact,they have never been granted
    authority OUTSIDE airports.You do realize that I hope.
    As Marsha Blackburn explained it ... the TSA has gradually snuck in RULES that
    imply new authority which is actually Unconstitutional.Those Rules have to be made
    by Congress and approved by votes.The TSA and this White House just up and Deemed
    the new Rules.
     
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    Not a chance. He was a loner, but would have had ways of getting stuff legally that most of us can't. He was taken alive.

    Interesting that the white nationalist nutter think that Obama is simultaneously a failure as POTUS, but able to command such loyalty that people would commit hideous crimes and then submit to the death penalty for his everlasting presidential glory.

    Srsly? WTF?
     
  20. Ethereal

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    When the investigation ultimately reveals that Holmes obtained everything with money he can account for, you'll claim that the investigators are in on the conspiracy too. Won't that be amusing.
     
  21. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then explain the Gulf of Tonkin or Lee Harvey Oswald.
    Or better still the behavior of Jack Ruby.
     
  22. Serfin' USA

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    http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/10/myth-buster-tsa-not-setting-up.html

    All I've found so far is that a lot of right wing sites have misinterpreted what the TSA did in Tennessee. The blog above explains things in less hyperbolic terms.

    But honestly, I'm a little confused as to what the deal is. Let's say the TSA is doing everything you say. What's the difference between that and what the highway patrol does?
     
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    Just the kind of 3rd grade anaysis the conspirators are expecting.
    Nothing deeper than what kind of candy bar was Holmes favorite.
    Grow some skepticism.Grow some guts.
    It's gonna take guts to tackle this.Meaning possible facing of an uglier truth than
    a mere massacre.
     
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    Lol, nothing he had was really that expensive.
     
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    That's about as likely as the moon landings having been hoaxed.
     

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