"They are systematically beheading children," Arabo repeated slowly. "And mothers and fathers. The world hasn't seen an evil like this for generations." "There's actually a park in Mosul where they actually beheaded children and put their heads on a stick... this is crimes against humanity. They are doing the most horrendous, the most heart-breaking crimes that you can think of." http://m.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/bar...tically-beheading-children-christian-genocide My take - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ! Where are the so called moral leaders of Europe and America ? Children being put to death like this is beyond evil. We cannot let ISIS exist for the sake of humanity.
Disgusting. ISIS needs to be stamped out like an accidental fire. Not captured,cared for, and tried in court...but simply annihilated.
I agree with you, Channe. And I hope you don't get mercilessly ridiculed for using terms such as "good" and "evil" and "moral". It used to be quite fashionable in some circles to mock the people who used such quaint terms.
There are no moral leaders left. I agree with you, but Here is the reality: We kill 1 million children a year legally in the USA. If you are against this moral outrage, you are deemed anti-woman, a Christian hating womanizer, & a 1950s has been. Don't know about the European equivalent. To think America or Europe give an honest crap about Iraqi kids being beheaded, is on par with American feminist groups being outraged about the treatment of women under Sharia Law. This very thread, will have more discussion about abortion in the US & the evils of Christians, then it will about the actual subject you gave us in the title comment. I will be surprised if this thread has more then 20 comments max. If it supersedes that number, it will not be about Islamists beheading kids, it will be about what I laid out above. If there were any moral leaders left, we would as a planet, go in together and wipe out this evil group within a matter of days. But that won't happen, b/c moral leaders no longer exist.
It's beyond pathetic. As if Obama is cheering or something. You know, if we could get posters in here to stay in reality, this might be a much better forum. Meanwhile, back in reality-land- what would you like us to do, Channe? We're already bombing ISIS. would you like us to send troops back to Iraq? If so, are you volunteering? Also, how do you propose we pay for one more invasion? I mean, we can't raise taxes, can we?
I've been saying that for years. But no one will go along with it. The other problem would be containing the fallout. - - - Updated - - - Looks like we are.
I just had to see it for myself. For those of us who maintain that there is no evil in the world, look into the abyss: WARNING: GRAPHIC PHOTOS http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56339
They know Marines are going to be sent in there after them, so what the hell? Hide in some mountains and then show images of children killed by U.S. bombs. We're going to be at this for awhile. I still say pick five targets of the greatest Islamic strongholds on the planet, including Saudi Arabia and Pakistan; and inform the world that each will be nuked until the Muslim clerics make it clear that jihad against the West is dead, and they demand that Muslims around the world find the nearest Jew, Westerner, Christian and kiss his feet.
lol. No. Childish is throwing insults at Bush for the last 6 years. But when that's all you have, I guess it will do. This is ALL on 0bama. If he can't handle it and the ensuing criticism, he needs to get the hell out of town.
Of course there's evil in the world. Don;t know who's arguing against that. Interesting thing from your link: HRW is a left wing organization. Seems they are not ignoring Christians. Just sayin'. - - - Updated - - - No it's not all on Obama. What a goofy thing to say. It's all on the Iraqis. When are they going to be responsible for their own country? In case you haven't noticed, we're broke, man- and nobody wants to even pay for the last war.
Simply awful to see things like that in todays world. Seeing that poor child's body....I dont even know what to say.
Yes, of course you are correct. It's just that the constant and continual of blaming Bush for every little thing got so old so terribly long ago. Sometimes it's kinda fun to toss trash back into the faces of idiotic liberals.
Yeah, but it's not productive. Again I ask- what do you want us to do that we aren't already doing? We got air strikes going. What else do you want? I ask this question of everyone here.
Iraq was the central front in the War on Terror, see he said centers: July 1997, South Movement, "the path of Jihad and proper action": "Those who desire to face up to the Zionists conspiracies, intransigence, and aggressiveness must proceed towards the advance centers of capabilities in the greater Arab homeland and to the centers of the knowledge, honesty and sincerity with whole heartiness if the aim was to implement a serious plan to save others from their dilemma or to rely on those capable centers; well-known for their positions regarding the enemy, to gain precise concessions from it with justified maneuvers even if such centers including Baghdad not in agreement with those concerned, over the objectives and aims of the required maneuvers." (On the 29th anniversary of Iraq's national day (the 17th of July 1968 revolution). President Saddam Hussein made an important comprehensive and nation wide address) http://southmovement.alphalink.com.au/countries/Iraq/speech.htm So that Jihadi invite could have been directed at anyone, but only one well-known group on the planet at the time was at war with us over Iraq and had different objectives and aims than Saddam. Your Obamanation reaffirmed the spirit that has triumphed over war, and now there is reality of what was in the CENTER between Syria, Iran, and the Wahabi, the real battlefield. So get Obama to do an apology tour of the US and apologize to all the Republicans that said Iraq was the central front in the War on Terror when Kerry and Obama were calling it a wrong war and stupid war.
"moral leaders" if only people knew the root of morality and it's not how atheists try to define it. Without having to answer to a higher being, then nothing is off limits. So, to claim "moral outrage", you are stating that your set of beliefs are superior to that of others. And, that means that your morality, which in this case traces back to Christianity, is superior to all else. >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<<
One more time- what do you want us to do? We've started air strikes. Do you think we should invade again? Are you willing to volunteer to go? Are you willing to pay the money it would take to go? Are you willing to raise taxes to support an invasion? I'm all ears man. No one seems to have much to suggest.
The Leftist idiots who used to ridicule and lampoon Dubyah for using those terms is who. Such rhetoric were the rantings of a simpleton, even though "simpletons" like Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn weren't afraid to speak plainly about good and evil. I never claimed HRW ignored Christians.
We should have never completely pulled out to begin with (or maybe never have started as we did to begin with). Something like this was foreseen by many. Our politicians created this mess, ignored this mess, and now are doing a half-ass job of cleaning up this mess......and we keep electing these same idiots into office.
What we need is a leader that is willing to fight for victory, not a leader that fights for political position. Unfortunately our current leadership believes that American influence is the cause of these problems. They are relativists. They do not believe in absolute morals like: it's wrong to behead Christian children. They believe that if some cultures think that kind of thing is okay, who are we to judge? They went on an international tour apologizing for American exceptionalism, and the influence our western values have had around the globe. To make good on their apologies, they are doing everything in their power to reduce the influence America has across the globe. They shrink our military. They close our bases. They pull out support. Do you see the forces of evil jockeying for power in the void this current leadership has created? This is why. Air strikes will not solve this issue. You don't help your neighbor rid himself of termites using a pair of tweezers and some darts from the safety of your own front porch. You have to go over there and deal with the issue directly until it's completely wiped out. If you don't, the termites will be in your house shortly. The only thing that will solve this issue is the imposition of American value on the enemies of life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Unless our leader(s) are convicted enough to stand up and defend these values... you're going to see more of this crap around the world.
we the people can act all outraged over this. We twice elected our current POTUS knowing full well that he was going to create a vacuum in the ME. We have no business in acting surprised and shocked. We constantly see any conservative who speaks of values being shouted down by the DNC and the media. Well, this is what you get.
Well, we never should have gone there in the first place, but nobody wants to talk about that. As far as leaving, this was going to happen no matter when we left. A lot of us said that way before any of this ever started. - - - Updated - - - Are you willing to raise taxes to pay for what you feel needs to be done? Are you willing to go over there yourself? Unless you are- sorry, but air strikes will have to do.