The Deep History Of US, Britain's Never-Ending Cold War On Russia

You did not surprise me. In psychiatric clinics, there are many people who believe, for example, in aliens, spiderman, elves, etc. And they do not need proof. So you are not the first.

 

No idea if Britain armed Saddam, I didn't see any American or British made equipment in his army or air force. So probably not. He looked Russian armed to me.

When Britain ruled there, they gassed the Kurds too. If that makes you feel any better.

 

And then there are those who follow Trump in spite of his flip-flops and lies.
Sorry to hear you've been in psychiatric clinics - I wish you well.

 

No need for sympathy.

The world is more insane.

 

This tractor trailer the Dutch farmer placed near the expressway.



He turn the brain and looked at the real facts about that war. I also wish this to you. Turn on the brain.

 

And MANY of the Russians that died were killed by Stalin.
He was a true mass murderer.

 

This thread should be in the conspiracy theory section.

 

What are you on about, with the genocide talk? The Native Americans still exist today. We were are war with them for 400 years; hardly a genocide. Over 80% of the deaths can be attributed to disease, not war deaths.

 

Did this guy tell you about this?

 

Are you talking about blankets infected with smallpox, which were specifically distributed to Indians?

 

.Do you think that the declassified special UN archives are a conspiracy? ...

 

To begin with, I will hold for you - a small educational program. Let me remind you that in the period 2000-2004. Russian and Polish historians, in accordance with the Agreement of the Rosarkhiv and the General Directorate of the State Archives of Poland, signed on December 4, 2000, a collection of documents and materials was prepared, entitled "Red Army Men in the Polish Captivity in 1919-1922"
This 912-page collection in Russia was published in 1 thousand copies. (St. Petersburg: Summer Garden, 2004). It contains 338 historical documents, revealing a very unpleasant situation prevailing in the Polish camps for prisoners of war, including in concentration camps. Apparently, for this reason, the Polish side not only did not publish the collection in Polish, but also took measures to buy up part of the Russian circulation.
So, in the collection "Red Army men ..." document No. 72, entitled "Provisional instruction for concentration camps of prisoners of war, approved by the High Command of the Polish Army" is presented.
I will quote a small quote from this document: "... Following the orders of the High Command No. 2800 / III of 18IV.1920, No. 17000 / IV of 18IV.1920, No. 16019 / II, and 6675 / Temporary instructions for concentration camps are being issued ... Camps for Bolshevik prisoners to be created under the order of the High Command of the Polish Army No. 17000 / IV in Zvyagel and Ploskirov, and then in Zhytomyr, Korosten and Bare are called "Concentration Camp for POWs No. ...".
The acquaintance with the documents contained in the collection "Red Army soldiers ..." makes it possible to assert confidently that the matter is not in the name, but in the essence of the Polish prisoners-of-war camps. They created such inhuman conditions for the keeping of Red Army soldiers of war, that they can rightly be regarded as the forerunners of the Nazi concentration camps.
This is evidenced by the absolute majority of documents placed in the collection "Red Army soldiers ...".
To substantiate my conclusion, I will allow myself to refer to the testimony of former prisoners of Auschwitz-Birkenau Ota Kraus (No. 73046) and Erich Kulka (No. 73043). They passed the Nazi concentration camps of Dachau, Sachsenhausen and Auschwitz-Birkenau and knew the procedures established in these camps well.


The atrocities and conditions of life of the Red Army prisoners of war in the Polish camps are very reminiscent of the Nazi atrocities in Auschwitz-Birkenau. For those doubting I will quote a few quotes from the book "The Factory of Death."
O. Kraus and E. Kulka wrote that:
"Birkenau did not live, but huddled in wooden barracks 40 meters long and 9 meters wide. The barracks had no windows, were poorly lit and ventilated ... There were 250 people in the barracks. There were no toilets in the barracks or toilets. Prisoners were forbidden to leave the barrack at night, so at the end of the barracks there were two tubs for sewage ... ".
"The depletion, illness and death of prisoners were caused by insufficient and bad nutrition, and more often by real hunger ... There were no dishes for food in the camp ... The prisoner received less than 300 grams of bread. Bread was given to the prisoners in the evening, and they immediately ate it. The next morning they received a half liter of black liquid called coffee, or tea and a tiny portion of sugar. At dinner, the prisoner received less than a liter of soup, which was supposed to be 150 g of potatoes, 150 g of turnip, 20 g of flour, 5 g of oil, 15 g of bones. In fact, it was impossible to find such modest doses of food in the soup ... With poor nutrition and hard work, a strong and healthy newcomer could only survive for three months ... "

Below I will give similar examples from Polish camps. Surprisingly, the Nazi sadists in many ways repeated the actions of their Polish predecessors. So, we open the collection "Red Army men ...". Here is the document No. 164, entitled "Report on the results of the examination of camps in Dombe and Stschalkovo" (October 1919).

"Inspection of the camp of Dombe ... Wooden buildings. The walls are loose, some buildings without a wooden floor, large chambers ... Most prisoners without shoes are completely barefoot. There are no beds ... No straw, no hay. Sleep on the ground or boards ... No linen, clothes; Cold, hunger, dirt and all this threatens with enormous mortality ... ".

In the same place.

"Report on the inspection of the camp of Stschalkovo. ... The state of health of prisoners is appalling, the hygienic conditions of the camp are disgusting. Most of the buildings are dugouts with perforated roofs, earthen floor, the boardwalk is very rare, windows are plastered with planks instead of glass ... Many barracks are crowded. So, on October, 19th this year. The hut for the captured Communists was so crowded that it was difficult to enter into it among the fog whatever. The prisoners are so filled that they could not lie, but had to stand leaning against each other ... ".
It should be noted that, both in Nazi and Polish camps, the beating of prisoners of war was common. Thus, in the above-mentioned document No. 334 it was noted that in the camp of Stshalkovo "up to the present time there have been desecrations of the prisoners. The beating of prisoners of war is a constant phenomenon ... ".

Document No. 44 "The attitude of the Ministry of War of Poland to the Supreme Command of the Polish troops over the article from the newspaper Courier Nova about the bullying of the Latvians who deserted from the Red Army with the transcript of the Minister of military affairs of Poland to the Supreme Command" (January 16, 1920). It says that Latvians were robbed on arrival in the The camp of Stschalkovo (apparently in the autumn of 1919), leaving them in one linen, and then each of them received 50 strokes of a barbed wire each. More than ten Latvians died of blood poisoning, and two were shot without trial and investigation.

Responsible for this barbarism were the captain of the camp, Captain Wagner and his assistant Lieutenant Malinovsky, distinguished by sophisticated cruelty.
This is described in document No. 314 "Letter of the Russian-Ukrainian delegation to the Polish delegation with a request to take action on the application of the Red Army prisoners of war against the former commandant of the camp in Stschalkovo" (September 3, 1921).

In the statement of the Red Army soldiers it was said that

"Lieutenant Malinovsky always walked around the camp accompanied by several corporals who had bundles of wire in their hands and whoever he did not like ordered to lie down in a ditch and the corporals beat as many as were ordered. If the beaten groaned or begged for mercy. Malinovsky took out his revolver and shot ... If the sentries shot dead prisoners. Malinowski gave them as a reward 3 cigarettes and 25 Polish marks ... You could often see how the group led by the Malinowski climbed up machine-gun towers and from there fired on defenseless people ... ".
.......
Сan write a lot about Polish sadists, but I think that you can find all the information yourself. I gave you a source. Once again I will call this source.

Collection of documents and materials "Red Army soldiers in the Polish captivity in 1919-1922," was prepared by Russian and Polish historians, in accordance with the Agreement of the Rosarkhiv and the General Directorate of State Archives of Poland, signed on December 4, 2000.

If you are interested in a printed issue:

In Russia (in Russian) was published in a circulation of 1 thousand copies, the publishing house "Summer Garden", 2004. Saint Petersburg.

Learn the history of the real documents, but not according to the speeches of idiots politicians.

 

To Hell with Russia.

Patton should have been allowed to move against them.


Better yet, Yalta should have been ground Zero for an "accident" for Stalin.

 

Patton - nothing. A worthless military leader. And you think that he could do something?


Roosevelt and Churchill begged Stalin to save their soldiers in the Ardennes. ... Only thanks to Stalin and the Russian soldiers, many American and British soldiers returned home alive.

If it were not for the Russian soldiers and Stalin, the Germans of you could be able to make two pieces of soap... More precisely - from your parents .... you would not have been born.

 

Nuts.



I remember Patton coming to the bulk of the rescue.

Use a better translator, & go squirt up a rope.

Kindly leave my ancestors out of your mind, mouth, and fingers.

 

I guess it had nothing to do with Stalin's aggression toward the Baltic states and Finland?

 

Does your comment have any meaning? Or is it a random set of letters with trembling fingers?

Read about the war in the Ardennes and Operation "Overlord", and calm down your belligerent fervor.

 

Move along little Rooskie.

I have no more time for you.

 

Are you talking about the voluntary entry of the Baltic countries into the USSR?

Demonstrations in the Baltic countries.
The poster reads "We demand join Latvia to the Soviet Union"



More photos from the Baltic countries. The poster reads "Death to the Fascists", "Long live
Marshal Stalin" ...



"Long live Stalin, Molotov and the Red Army"



The beginning of the war of the USSR and Finland. November 26 at 15 hours 45 minutes Russian troops, located a kilometer north-west of Maynila, were unexpectedly fired from the Finnish territory with an artillery salvo. In total, the Finns produced seven gun shots. Three Red Army men and one junior commander were killed, seven Red Army men, one junior commander and one junior lieutenant were wounded.
Finland attacked the USSR. The USSR did not attack Finland. Learn the story. The Russians are always only defended.
By the way, apart from this war, the Finns attacked the USSR three times in 1918, 1921 and 1941.

Again. The USSR never attacked Finland. And Once again - teach history and do not write nonsense.

 

You do not have, not only time, but also no arguments

 

From my reading of the battle I don't see Red troops having much affect. The German's were out of fuel and when the weather cleared, they got pounded from the air. It was a long shot at best and with no chance of making it to Antwerp the offensive died. I think most know that the Soviets took the brunt of the German war machine. I'm currently reading the part about the destruction of army group center in this book. https://www.amazon.com/Russo-German-War-1941-45/dp/0891414916 It goes to show you how out classed Germany was in manpower and materials when the Soviets could lose multiple armies and replace them in short order and even with the huge loses at Kursk, was able to mount a major offensive a couple weeks later. Afterwards, they had new offensives every few weeks or months. But all this has nothing to do with the OP.

You must have worked for Pravda during the USSR.

Voluntary

 

One word for you; Solzhenitsyn. One book title; The Gulag Archipelago. Now we can discuss war crimes, camps and atrocities. Perhaps you can tell us how many German POW were captured by the USSR, and how many actually made it back to Germany?

 

You should probably hit up a history book. We didn't wipe out 300+ tribes with blankets, guy.

 

No, you just shot them for being on the land you wanted, and getting in your way. Much cleaner and quicker like that, wouldn't you agree? The only difference between then and now is that you've broadened your horizons and bomb any country not reading from your rule book.

 

If you want to return everyone's land to the "rightful owners", do we give France to the Germans or the Romans?

We fought wars for 400 years. They lost. Such is the way of the world...