The Desparation of the Procreation Argument Against Equality

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  1. The Amazing Sam's Ego

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    Procreation is not irrelevant. if it wasn't for procreation, nobody would exist today...
     
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    I didn't say procreation was not completely irrelevant.

    I said procreation is not relevant to who should or should not be allowed to get legally married and sign a legal marriage contract together.
     
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    The reason marriage has been defined as 1 man 1 woman for 1000s of years is because only they can reproduce.
     
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    That's not true. A man could marry multiple women when marriage first came around and women were considered just property back then as well. That is true traditional marriage if you want to play the "But it's been this way for 1000s of years!" argument. Your appeal to tradition has been noted however.
     
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    i never mentioned tradition in my arguement
     
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    Saying something has gone on the same way for however many years and should remain that way just 'cause is an appeal to tradition whether you use the word or not.
     
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    Why do you want to redefine marriage from 1 man and 1 woman, to include 2 men and 2 women? That's just plain wrong.
     
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    Because I like freedom. I understand if you disagree, but we live in a free society and we should be as free as possible, including being free from other people's personal and potentially misguided prejudices.
     
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    Freedom does not mean "moral decay is okay" and "do whatever u want".
     
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    What is moral decay?

    And what is wrong with people pursuing whatever they want and finding happiness with someone of the same gender?

    Also when did I ever say freedom meant those things? Why must you lie?
     
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    what does it matter to you or anyone else?...how does two men or two women being married affect me in any way?...Ive been with the same women for 32 yrs and married for 28(we're not sure we are legally married but who cares) if same sex couples get married it has no affect on my marriage and I just dont care...and neither should you...
     
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    No it isn't.
     
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    Morality is subjective. Your perceived version of morality has no effect on anyone but you. You don't get to dictate what other people do based on your magical sky fairies magic book.
     
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    Because it's unnatural. 2 men or 2 women did not create the human race.
     
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    Procreation is irrelevant to who can marry.
     
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    My opinions are of little consequence.
     
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    rahl's got it. In secular America nobody cares if people procreate in marriage anymore or not.

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    lol... okaaaayyyy. :weed:
     
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    homosexuality is normal in nature and advantageous to the survival of the specie....
     
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    What's that supposed to mean?

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    Prove it with scientific studies.
     
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    Obviously
     
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    Right on, How does two gay people getting married effect my life in any way? It really doesn't beyond the possible revenue from marriage licenses. Enough, its going to happen in every state eventually, as it should. Focus on something more important like our economy or the craziness of Iraq or how sub-par our infrastructure is compared to other 1st world countries.
     
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    correct as many infertile couples raise children not their own...maybe infertile hetro couples should be considered immoral and forbidden to marry as well...and then are married fertile couples who have no children, are they also immoral?
     
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    It means you clearly don't know what, "...are of little consequence." means. lol
     
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    Elaborate.

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    Infertile heterosexual marriage is not immortal. That's because the majority of couples having the potential for procreation simply serves as a basis for allowing all straight couples to marry-regardless if they have procreation potential or not.
     
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    When you said:

    What you were basically saying was that your opinions are not very important. Do you think that is true?
     

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