The Failure of Communism and Socialism

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  1. PatriotNews

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    In this election year where we will have the choice to remain a free
    democratic republic with a free market capitalist society or a socialist
    government controlled economy where your freedoms will be severely
    limited.

    Call it what you want, socialism, progressivism, communism, it's all the
    same with the same outcome. Equal distribution of misery for the masses
    and wealth and control for a select elite class of bureaucrats.

    Unfortunately, with the exception of Islam, communism and socialism has
    been one of the deadliest creations of mankind.

    This thread is going to explore the history and failure of communism and
    socialism and expose the crimes against humanity that it has caused.
    I will ask that you join me in exposing the left and the high cost in human
    lives, the hundreds of millions of human lives paid for in the name of
    a Utopian society.
     
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    Here is a great video. As the world was witnessing the
    fall of communism around the world, we watched as China
    massacred it children to put down a revolution.

    [video=youtube;s9A51jN19zw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9A51jN19zw[/video]
     
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    I'm not very sure you understand what socialism and communism imply. I'm assuming you think that it means when the government owns everything, which is a common misconception. :^D
     
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    I'll assume you don't know the history of failures of socialism and communism.
     
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    Well, seeing as I'm an anarchist market socialist, or mutualist for short, I have a good idea about what both mean. Can you define them for me, if you think I'm wrong?
     
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    People die no matter what political system use. But instead of being negative and condemning entire political philosophy. Instead use benefits that work from each not insecure dogma.
     
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    I see. Well, perhaps you are not only unaware of the failures of socialism and communism,
    but also unaware of the failure of mutualism as well? Or perhaps you can disabuse me of
    that notion and point me to it's successful implementation?

    You might as well join with me, for I am a monarchist who believes that I should be King of
    America, and Ruler of the World.
     
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    Well, now I'm absolutely sure you're joking.
     
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    I'm sarcastic, but I'm not joking. You can't show me where mutualism has succeeded
    because there is no example of that. What has succeeded is free market capitalism.

    Nothing has been more successful in history than that. Or once again, perhaps you can
    correct me if I'm wrong.
     
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    Mutualism hasn't been tried. However, have we ever actually HAD free market capitalism?
     
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    Yes, it has been enormously successful here in the United States.
     
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    If so successfully why Americans so bitter? Many angry spitting hate on this forum.
     
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    Because Free Market Capitalism requires hard work and personal discipline in order to thrive within it. Hard work, discipline and sacrifice are always a hard sell compared to "the easy route".

    For instance, what is the best way to loose weight and get in shape? That's right, a proper diet and regular exercise. But, that is hard and required discipline.

    But, what SELLS the most? That's right, the prepackaged diet food and the miracle weight loss pill. These are easy to do, but they don't work, or at least they don't have lasting effect.

    So people engage in the latter but not the former. Why is that? Because people are inherently lazy on the whole, and are always willing to go for the "get it quick, get it easy" route, and there is ALWAYS some politician willing to lie to them and tell them that "it should be that way for you, the easy way, and it's the OTHER GUY'S FAULT that it is'nt!"

    You see, 30% of the population is just Friking Retarded, another 30% is just Friking Lazy, and then there is the remaining 40% of us who do the work and foot the bill for the other lazy, retarded 60%. And it is that Lazy, Retarded 60% who do all the complaining, while doing the least providing.
     
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    I meant if it works. why usa so angry. They should be happy. Many not reading this forum.
     
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    It is "original sinners" who fail communism or socialism. They both require social morals for free.
     
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    So is that the source of american exceptionalism?

    Do countries like norway, Sweden an denmark also have similar proportions of repugnant lard asses
     
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    I see no reason to assume this is anything less than the norm for the human condition, worldwide.
     
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    Seems to me that there are many countries that achieve better results
    By many measures
    And many if not most of those better performing countries are not so devoted to free markets and small gov as we are. It does not seem to me that there is evidence that pure capitalism produces demonstrably superior results
     
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    No. It is being exceptional enough to simply "purchase" better privileges and immunities, through capital wealth in our Republic.
     
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    Nazis believed they exceptional.
     
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    That is the bitterness and hate of leftist socialists.
     

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