The GEORGIA RICO TRIAL: Pretrial Decisions

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Oh, it gets better...


    Ex-Georgia GOP chair seeks to punish Fulton prosecutor over legal brochure
    David Shafer requests hearing to determine sanctions against Trump case lead
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    By Tamar Hallerman
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    Lawyers for one of the defendants charged in the sweeping Fulton County election interference probe are calling for an examination of the special prosecutor spearheading the case.

    In a Thursday court filing, attorneys representing David Shafer asked a Fulton judge to hold an evidentiary hearing about a brochure the former Georgia GOP chairman received from Nathan Wade’s law office. Wade has been leading the Fulton County District Attorney’s election investigation for nearly two years.


    Then there's this...

    "The DA’s office has paid the Law Offices of Nathan J. Wade just shy of $549,000 since January 2022, according to Fulton records. Campbell has been paid more than $116,000 since April 2021."
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Exactly!

    "Willis previously proposed March 4, 2024, as a start date, but after co-defendant Kenneth Chesebro demanded a speedy trial earlier this week, she called his bluff and requested that the trial begin on Oct. 23, 2023."​

    Next time try to do your research BEFORE you make the absurd comment.
     
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  3. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'd misspoken, but I realize that Jordan is a Representative, not a Senator. The point was, his oversight doesn't include into state court systems; that is, he would need first establish a sufficient cause to suspect the involvement of Willis, by producing actual evidence of it, through his investigation of the federal agencies-- wouldn't he? He can't compel anything, without subpoena, right? And that would mean that AG Garland would have to sign off, that it was legitimate, yes?
     
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    He can issue a subpoena if he is working on legislation that her testimony could influence. Garland does not need to sign off on a Congressional subpoena, but Jordan would need the DOJ to enforce her lack of compliance. I believe there's a one year statute of limitations on this (based on memory from the last time I looked into it) which means that Fani is in the clear. However, in a few months she'll be at the whims of a Republican-led DOJ if they win next November. Being a state prosecutor does not mean she can ignore a Congressional subpoena. She could be charged and convicted for lack of compliance.
     
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    The letter is step one.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Still quoting your obsolete source?...lol
     
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    Not if she is receiving federal funds…. Try to keep up.
     
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    Receiving federal funds is one way. But, as long as Congress is contemplating legislation that her testimony could benefit, she has to testify regardless if she's used federal funds. She doesn't have to compromise her prosecution, but she has to show up. And failure to answer questions can put her in contempt of Congress. Being a state employee doesn't mean she can ignore a Congressional subpoena.
     
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    I posted the LAST proposal that Willis made. That was last week. The March 4 proposal was from mid-August BEFORE Chesboro's request.

    I'm done with you. Clearly it's a waste of time it is to expect a serious answer from you.
     
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    Your source was dated on the 24th. Mine was dated the 29th. You used an outdated and unreliable source.
     
  11. DEFinning

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    LOL: Republicans no longer control both chambers of Congress, and the White House-- try harder, to keep up.
     
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    Irrelevant.
     
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    Then how will her receiving of "federal funds" be restricted, or otherwise be of issue, specifically?
     
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    It gives Jordan grounds to investigate Willis and her case
     
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    That is not my recollection, from the J6 Committee. I believe that a federal judge, at least, must sign off on any Congressional subpoena, which I don't see happening, as things now stand-- based on nothing but Jordan, personally, finding the timing to be too coincidental, for his conspiracy-minded (really: overtly partisan) tastes. If this is incorrect, please supply an authoritative source, for your refutation.

    Now that's what I call "overconfidence!"
    The Red Trickle, I see, hasn't deterred you from chicken-counting, of your eggs.


    You mean, like being a member of Congress, allows you to do?

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    ...the committee issued subpoenas to House Republican Leader
    Kevin McCarthy and four other GOP representatives to testify to the committee about their involvement with Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election: Reps. Scott Perry of Pennsylvania, Jim Jordan of Ohio, Andy Biggs of Arizona and Mo Brooks of Alabama. All five ignored the subpoenas.
    <End>
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...6-committee-gop-lawmakers-schiff/10920876002/
     
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    As he purportedly is doing. The point at issue, was whether he could, without judicial/DOJ approval, subpoena Willis--
    are you standing
    behind Popscott, in the line of those, failing to keep up?
     
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    According to the Democrats, Congress can subpoena anyone.
     
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    Yes.... Jordan is asking Willis to hand over details on any federal funds the office receives by Sept. 7, as well as communications with the Justice Department — including Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is leading a federal probe into Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election that’s left the former president facing four separate criminal counts.
     
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    never said that. Implying does not mean thinking.
     
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    that is not what she said at all. The right to a speedy trial is guaranteed by the 6th amendment. The discovery or the turning over evidence is routine in any criminal trial and is usually about 45 days after the person is arraigned, generally. The defense team can waive the right to a speedy trial through several means.
     
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    I didn't imply anything.
     
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    Yes, they can subpoena anyone, but what DEFinning stated in his post, in summary, was that Congress does not have the authority of oversight of state courts. The real issue here is whether or not federal funds were used. Jordan tried this the first time with the NYC AG, and lost, badly, since none of the money was used in the investigative proceedings. And the same will happen here. As for text messages, it is Jim Jordan's assertion of the "weaponization of the Federal Government" aspect that the GOP is currently on like a whole bunch of drunken sailors, hoping it will get people like you and others to donate more often and increase those payments.
     
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    Yeah you did. You are desperately, extremely desperate to try to get something on the DA Willis or whoever in that you hope Trump gets off on a technicality. Why else would you say the things that DA said or didn't say, among other things?
     
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    and the only step he will take. It was disproven in the NYC AG allegation, and history will repeat itself here, despite all the hubris that conservative media makes.
     
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    Jordan is asking for communications with the federal Justice Department — including Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is leading a federal probe into Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election that’s left the former president facing four separate criminal counts.

    Jordan is asking Willis to hand over details on any federal funds the office receives by Sept. 7, as well as communications with the Justice Department — including Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is leading a federal probe into Trump’s challenges to the 2020 election that’s left the former president facing four separate criminal counts.

    “Given the weighty federal interests at stake, the Committee is conducting oversight of this matter to determine whether any legislative reforms are appropriate or necessary. Such reforms could include changes to the federal officer removal statute, immunities for federal officials, the permissible use of federal funds, the authorities of special counsels, and the delineation of prosecutorial authority between federal and local officials,” Jordan wrote in the letter.

    https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/23925940/jim-jordan-letter-to-fani-willis.pdf

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