The GOP's Hatred Of Muslims Has Nothing To Do With ISIS.

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  1. Telekat

    Telekat Member Past Donor

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    The GOP's hateful rhetoric toward Muslims is usually justified with lines about "terrorism" and "ISIS." However, those justification could be farther from the truth. Christians, a demographic which makes up a supermajority of the GOP, have been enemies with Muslims for 1,300 years. That, not 9/11 and the rise of ISIS, is why the GOP holds the views it does on Muslims.

    http://www.ied.info/books/why/the-1300-year-battle-between-christians-and-muslims
     
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    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Islam has been an enemy of atheists and agnostics for 1300 years.

    If Islam was a non-inteventionist religion the crusades would have never happened.

    I suspect if ISIS was chopping off the heads of Democrats and liberals your opinion would be different. You add nothing to the discussion except an expression of your personal contempt of Christians.
     
  3. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And your post couldn't be farther from the truth. BTW I clicked on your link and went to 'about us' and got a 'fatal error' message.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a troll thread so let me ask you this, why does the DNC love radical Muslims?
     
  5. Telekat

    Telekat Member Past Donor

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    The link works, it's your computer that is malfunctioning.

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    What's not to love?

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    I dislike ISIS too.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So the OP is affirming that democrats are not Christians.

    Now we know the truth!
     
  7. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    Muslim aggression is what sparked that conflict.

    Within 20 years of Muhammad's death, they had conquered the Persian Empire and driven the Byzantines out of the Middle East and North Africa.

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    I got that error too.
     
  8. RPA1

    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't say the link didn't work I said the 'About Us' part of the link (web page) returned a fatal error. I wanted to find out who was behind the page that's all.
     
  9. MAYTAG

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    Old Tyme Religion is pretty much leaving the mainstream. People still call themselves Christian and either care nothing of it or rationalize it against modern scientific knowledge and morals. There is no basis for your claim.

    The very issue is that Muslims are still fighting this war you speak of, while even the minority of Christians who might still be interested in such a thing are not. They are just trying to stop gay marriage. They are trying to stop evolution. THEY ARE HARMLESS relative to what Muslims are doing.

    We can always bring Christianity down. It's falling on its own, at least as a threat. Islam is not.
     
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    Whatever party you expect to oppose democrats in the future had better accept non Christians, or democrats will win everything! Christianity is losing steam to Islam and the Left. Time to find a philosophy that works.
     
  11. Spooky

    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You assume that people vote according to religious beliefs.

    That is not even in the top ten of concerns.

    But if we go with your theory you should consider this. 70.6 of Americans identify themselves as Christians so it is going to be the party that rejects Christians that will be on the losing side.
     
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    Actually, I assert that most people in America don't give a crap about their claimed religious beliefs, including not voting according to them. The few who do will not amount to much of a political party. You had better be more inclusive. I have already said nothing about excluding Christians. Those are your words.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No they do not.

    Both parties currently hold 47% of registered voters which means it is all about turnout. Many non-Christians vote republican because they have higher priorities then religious beliefs which makes your statement false.

    The bigger problem here is for the democrats because they are so anti-Christian. They are going to lose lots of voters because of that. The republicans don't make religion an issue like the democrats do.

    Liberals are on the losing side of this one.
     
  14. MAYTAG

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    Well, sure, I am atheist and I am voting for Trump. I would normally not vote for either party and I love how Trump has wrecked the gop. There is no difference in the parties anymore, so we have to wreck it to get our vote back.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a very logical way to vote actually.

    Nothing wrong with it whatsoever.

    Many people vote according to single issues, I do also, which means that excluding Christians from a political party would have no effect.
     
  16. MAYTAG

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    I wouldn't want to do that.

    In fact, I'd take some of the goofier christian candidates like Cruz or Huckabee over any gopdem establishment candidate, including Hillary, Jeb, or Rubio.
     
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    So I guess Christians don't make up the supermajority of the Dems? Ridiculous proposition either way.

    Anyway, Muslims hardly have had an impact on American history and society. They've always been less than 1 in a 100 and never had a victim complex - until our foreign policy took us deep into the ME.

    9/11 and other consequences of the 20th century Islamic resurgence brought Muslims into the American public's mind and consciousness, where they had never been before.
     
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    American Muslims thank a "liberal secular society" for their "ability" to practice Islam. That's why Dems love Muslims: they vote Democrat. Muslims see Christian conservatives who oppose sharia law as a threat. Many Muslims also share a desire with Democrats to see Americans disarmed for obvious reasons.

    When the Muslim population reaches the tipping point; that's when the danger begins..... as other freedom-based nations are having the misfortune of discovering.

    Most American Muslims aren't out to commit jihad, but "most" Muslims are just as worried and afraid of the radicals as non-Muslims...and with good reason.
     
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    An uninformed, uneducated, absurd opinion. Not worth even addressing such an opinion.
     
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    You know why I doubt this OP? Because prior to 9/11/2001 the average American probably would not have even been able to tell you what Islam was. At best they might have been able to tell you it was some religion popular on the other side of the world and that's all. It was only after 9/11 that the average American began to acquaint themselves with Islam and form any kind of opinion on it.
     
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    The JEWS killed their messiah (according to their fairy tale for adults).....so THAT'S why many Christians have disdain for Jews. Faith poisons everything.
     
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    So if a very competent JEW runs for office in The Islamic State's elections, he stands a pretty good chance of winning, right? :)
     
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    If you poll, Hispanics in the US, Your going to learn most are Christians, specifically Catholic and would agree Muslim Terrorist are a problem. That problem if not addressed by the said 1.5 BILLION Moderate Muslims, then why are you suggesting US Democrats approval of Muslims in the US trying to change the system....
     
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    As always. I like this joke.

    I'm sure sharia law and all of Muhammads violent teachings has nothing to do with Islam. When the Qur'an call for murder of people, it has nothing to do with Islam. The countless violent verses in Qur'an that outnumber the peaceful ones have nothing with Islam either


    The reason why it will always have everything to do with Islam is because of what Islam teaches. All you need to do is look at statistics and polls to learn just how much Islam has nothing to do with it.

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    Yeh, I'm sure all of that has nothing to do with Islam. It has nothing to do with barbaric Islamic law, Islamic culture and Islamic religious text. Like Islamic law which calls for stoning of adulterers and apostates. That has nothing to do with Islam. Islam is a religion of peace. So the minority of Muslim countries that practice such laws has nothing to do with Islam either. The Islamic law that gives woman half the value of a man has nothing to do with Islam. The calling for murder in the Islamic religious texts Has nothing to do with Islam.

    And why should any of these consequences of Islamic law, Islamic religeon, and Islamic culture has anything to do with Islam? There is a vast majority of Muslim population out there after all that don't follow sharia law and don't blow people up.

    Just kiding. looking at the numbers you can see that the Muslim population that follow violent sharia laws make up the majority of Muslim community. But of course this has nothing to do with Islam. Sure terrorist are only a minority, but an extraordinary amount of Muslims think that these attacks can be justified. And you guessed it. That of course has nothing to do with Islam

    Because even if the Muslims that blow themselves up make a small minority, the Muslims that follow brutal sharia law make up the majority. And that's very peculiar for a religion of peace that has nothing to do with itself.

    Any more and you'll hear people say that Islam has nothing to do with Islam.
     
  25. FreedomSeeker

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    Yes, 100% of Muslims believe in Sharia Law. If one does not believe me then ask Muslims "will you condemn the Islamic texts for advocating these components of Sharia Law: beheadings, cutting off feet, crucifixions, stonings, cutting off hands, whippings (torture)?"
    They won't answer "yes", so of course they can not be counted to stand for our side in this war (WWIII.) When push comes to shove, they will likely stand with who their god says are the best of people, against those who are so vile (apparently) that they (we) deserve eternal torture.

    Love Muslims...question the ideology.
     

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