The Harris campaigh admits to lying about Project 2025 and Trump

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I said they never said they would overturn roe vs wade during their ob interview, if you think they did, show it. The onus is on you.
     
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    Great excuse to not do any homework... not really...
     
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    No, you said:

    So the onus is on you to prove that they said "they would not overturn precedence".

    Sorry, but word play is not going to get you out of what you said.
     
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    So, when I say that I believe that they rigged the election, its not the same as saying that they stole the election. Correct?

    So, question for you, which do you think does more damage to the country? "Rigging" the supreme court? Or rigging a national election and destroying trust in that system as a result?

    And can you really say that they rigged the supreme court with "hyper conservatives"? Kavanaugh has sided with the liberal side of the court before. And so has Barret. And so has Gorsuch. Not exactly "hyper conservative" actions there...
     
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    The only one that he has "surrounded" himself with in that project is JD. All the rest are not a part of his campaign. They were PREVIOUSLY a part of Trumps Administration. And JD has said that he will follow Trumps agenda.
     
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    In this case?

    Rigging the Supreme Court, we saw it happen while it was happening. It has resulted in a Supreme Court that rules opposite the way the majority has voted in the last 5 elections!

    Also there is zero evidence that the election was rigged.
     
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    In this case? So you apply it selectively. Got it.

    And here's your evidence: LINK: The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election | TIME

    A group decided what they considered "the proper outcome of the election". A group decided "influence perceptions". A group "changed rules and laws". A group "steered media coverage". And a group "controlled the flow of information". (the red is my additions for sake of grammar)

    We all know that if a group had done this to help Trump you all would be hollering about "rigged" elections. The proof is in the pudding.
     
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    I’ve done my homework, christian nationalist support is what made tRaitor tRump. The Heritage foundation IS christian nationalist. One hundred sixty former tRaitor tRump administration personnel helped write P2025. TRaitor tRump lies as he breathes.

    TRaitor tRump WILL dance with the one that brought him; it’s called Project 2025.
     
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    nope, you can take it over leave it
     
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    lol Didn't think you would. Because we both know that isn't what they said. Which means your previous statement has been proven to be...less than truthful.
     
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    I already told you I would not, lol

    they did not say they would overturn precedent on roe vs wade, we both know that
     
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    You clearly do not understand the question.
    Or you do, and you are, for some reason, trying to avoid it.
     
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    Proof positive there's no need to read anything else.
     
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    Good thing I already did, right?
     
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    So.... when a liberal President adds liberal justices, is he "rigging" the court as well?
    If only you understood that the constitution is not interpreted and applied by opinion poll.
     
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    will be now that Republicans set the SC Judges to 50 votes, we will never again get Moderate Judges from either side
     
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    Folks predicting the future don't interest me much. I've never been much for Tarot Cards, crystal bals and tea leaves.

    But I know what Trump will do, because he has a track record as President that includes cheaper gas, more secure borders, lower inflation, no new wars, no national embarrassments like Biden's cowardly skedaddle from Afghanistan, a stronger military and so many more good things. Trump has an established Presidential record of keeping my family safe and prosperous. That is the most compelling argument in the coming election.
     
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    The Harris campaign lies about everything. It wasn't long ago she was Indian. Now she's black and now she claims she did solid work at the border before denying she ever had the job.

    All she does is tell lies.
     
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    Now they want to erase her past as well
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    Data from the office that was featured in an investigative report from the Bay Area News Group showed that there were 1,956 convictions for misdemeanor and felony marijuana offenses from 2004 and 2010 when Harris led the office. But the number of people who were actually sent to state prison was 45.
     
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    Considering the Heritage Foundation established it’s influence in his administration during his first term, which included but was not limited to the selection of his White House staff, it is not unreasonable to believe they will maintain that status if he is elected to another term, especially considering their ongoing collaboration in his current campaign.

    The Heritage Foundation has gone as far as establishing a full list of policies they plan to push for if Trump is elected to a second term in office, which of course we know as “Project 25”

    The association at this point is significantly more than being mere classmates with someone, they arguably had a stronger footprint in his first term than any other conservative think tank, and they already have their own full written plan of policies they wish to push forward for Trump’s second term, which according to him he has not yet read

    To date, all we have heard from Trump regarding the policies of Project 25 is that he considers some of those policies to be extreme, but we have yet to see any specification as to which policies that is, and it would seem that there are no plans to end ties with the Heritage Foundation, thus they will likely maintain the same influence they had during his first administration

    This isn’t a trial, it is a question of what a presidential candidate’s policies will be if elected. It’s the entire reason why we have a series of interviews and debates with the candidates before the election. It’s a question that many voters have been asking, that to date they have not gotten a straight answer for
     
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    If that's what you need to think, be my guest. Delusional thinking has become a mass problem in the RW media and Trump era.
     
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    Please provide proof that the Heritage Foundation selected Trump's staff in his first term. Sounds like pure, unadulterated left wing propaganda.

    You write "The Heritage Foundation has gone as far as establishing a full list of policies they plan to push for if Trump is elected to a second term in office," Ok. So what? I'm sure the Democrat Party, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, the American Communist Party, the AMA, the Teachers Union, and dozens, if not hundreds of other organizations have done exactly the same thing.

    You write "they [The Heritage Foundation] arguably had a stronger footprint in his first term than any other conservative think tank." Prove that please. I smell radical left wing propaganda. You write further that the Foundation "already have their own full written plan of policies they wish to push forward for Trump’s second term, which according to him he has not yet read". Ok. I assume the same is true of the American Helicopter Society, St Jude's Hospital, and the Pittsburgh Pastel Artist League. Your quest for comment on Project 2025 has been answered by Trump. He is aware of it, as You and I are... and nothing more.

    You seek to explore what Trump's policies might be if elected. I would suggest the best available data on that can be observed from his first time in the White House where his policies were clearly concerned with cheaper fuel, more secure borders, a stronger military, lower inflation, lower taxes, safer streets, election integrity, no new wars and so much more.
     
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    Ex-Trump Administration Officials Involved in Project 2025: Full List
    Despite former president Donald Trump denying any links to Project 2025, dozens of contributors to the controversial policy proposals formerly served in his administration.
    Paul Dans – Dans served as chief of staff at the U.S. Office of Personnel Management
    Steven Groves – Groves served as special assistant to Trump to defend him against Robert Mueller's investigation
    Spencer Chretien – Chretien served as special assistant to the president in 2020 and 2021.
    Jonathan Berry – Berry served as counsel to the assistant attorney general in the Department of Justice
    Adam Candeub – Candeub served in the DOJ as the deputy associate attorney general
    Dustin J. Carmack – Carmack served as the chief of staff to the director of national intelligence
    Brendan Carr – A member of both the Trump and the Biden administration
    Ben Carsonserved as the 17th United States Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
    Ken Cuccinelli – Cuccinelli served as the acting Secretary of Homeland Security
    Rick Dearborn – Dearborn served as a deputy chief of staff in Trump's White House
    Diana Furchtgott-Roth – Furchtgott-Roth served as acting assistant secretary for economic policy
    Thomas Gilman – Gilman served in two roles in the Department of Commerce
    Mandy Gunasekara – Gunasekara served as the chief of staff for the Environmental Protection Agency
    Gene Hamilton – Hamilton served as counsel for the attorney general
    Jennifer Hazelton – Hazelton served as public affairs official at USAID
    Troup Hemenway – Hemenway served as associate director for national security
    Dennis Dean Kirk – the Senate delayed confirming him This created a backlog of complaints.
    Christopher Miller – Miller served in three roles in the Trump administration in a period of only seven months.
    Stephen Moore – advised on his 2016 presidential campaign.
    Mora Namdar – Namdar served as the acting assistant secretary of state
    Peter Navarro – served several rolls in the Trump Administration
    William Perry Pendley – Pendley served as the acting director of the Bureau of Land Management
    Max Primorac – Primorac served as the acting chief operating officer for USAID
    Roger Severino – Severino served in the Department of Health and Human Services
    Kiron Skinner – Skinner served as director of policy planning in the State Department
    Brooks Tucker – Tucker served as chief of staff for the Department of Veterans Affairs
    Hans von Spakovsky – Von Spanovsky served on Trump's short lived Voter Fraud Commission,
    Russ Vought – Vought served as director the Office of Management and Budget
    William Walton – Walton served on his 2016 transition team as co-head of economic issues for federal agencies.
    Paul Winfree – Winfree served in three roles in Trump's White House

    https://www.newsweek.com/project-2025-ex-trump-contributors-republicans-election-1922933

    So show proof and what positions they held.
    I think the above list is prof positive.
    You write further that the Foundation "already have their own full written plan of policies they wish to push forward for Trump’s second term, which according to him he has not yet read".[/quote]
    Duh. TRaitor tRump's daily national security briefing had to be done in pictures to get him to look at it.
    Wuuuuuuuuuut, Heritage Foundation is the seminal organization of christian nationalists, the rock solid ALWAYS tRumpers.
    Got him impeached twice, caused an insurrection AND an attempted overthrow of our government.
    Which has been brought about by the Biden Administration, except for the boarder which tRaitor tRump torpedoed.
     
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