The Hoax of Global Warming

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    We're all ganna die any second of any day now! because of global warming! that time comes, and goes. nothing. We're all ganna die in 5 years, if we don't all buy hybrid cars, and don't do what other nonsensical things democrat Politicians tell us to do!!!

    5 years comes, nothing happens. We're all ganna die in 20 years if we don't cut fossil fuels and fracking, and crapping, and don't recycle everything, and blah blah blah. 20 years comes and goes. nothing happens.

    A logical person would just stop listening to these Far-Left Wing Socialist nut jobs! and they think they know things, when Weather men and women, can't even predict the weather tomorrow for sure.

    Democrats and their politicians, can "magically" just know what kind of weather was hundreds and or thousands of years ago, before people kept records of them. And some how they "magically" also know what's going to happen in the future.
    I think it's because they're on drugs personally, and they're high, and they think they see visions. Either that, or they're just in it for the money and power, and don't believe in it at all. Either way, they're nut jobs! and get to spend billions of dollars on their Green New Deal, which is American Tax Payers Money! Whilst the American people can barely make ends meat.
     
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    If democrat Politicians honestly believe in "global warming", then why don't they make a deal with china whom they love, to help slow down their emmisions, and make them cleaner? Since China is the biggest producer of emissions in the world.

    Also, why do they continue to put out more carbon emissions that more than several humans combined on a regular basis, by flying in their private jets, and living in mansions? driving gas gussing cars.

    not to mention, cutting down forests.
     
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    china has the highest emmissions, why doesn't the democrat politicians do something about that?
    I mean, if they really cared and all.

    since weather is so predictable anyways, right? lmao. they can some how predict far into the future, and far into the past, before weather was recorded. lmao.
     
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    Not sure what makes republicans think democrats love China, but I can only speak for myself. China and America have a complicated relationship. We're rivals and yet we're also customers of each other. I think democrats would love more climate change agreements with them, but China does its own thing. China is a country that's all about winning and power and they could care less about whether the little people, or the rest of the world, suffer. China makes clean energy because they want to be prepared for the future, though, and there is at least some cooperation. https://www.state.gov/u-s-china-joint-glasgow-declaration-on-enhancing-climate-action-in-the-2020s/

    Same reason I eat meat and think animals have rights. I'm not going to make any kind of significant difference by not eating meat if everybody else is. But if they can use their private jets to meet with people to make a deal that sets policy for billions or even millions of people, the net carbon effect of that jet trip is highly negative. Policy and personal behavior are actually very separate things to a logical person. I remember people could not believe I would advocate for the legalization of drugs when I don't use any drugs besides caffeine. My policy positions and my personal behaviors are not actually very related. Policy is about what would make the world better. Personal behavior is about emotions and wants.
     
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    Democrat Politicians: Everyone is going to die! Everyone is going to die! Unless, you follow the Democrat opinions, and rules, and Agenda, then maybe, just maybe, everyone will be ok.

    Because everyone knows that blindly following Democrat Politicians, will save the Environment, and End Carbon Emissions.
     
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    Ooooooh! Tuckums!!! How is his testicle tanning going these days?

    You can bet if old Tucker the uh Mucker is blathering on about it there would be more spin than 500 watt turbine

    Now this is from April 2021 - these projects don’t leap into fruition overnight sooooo -

    https://www.mainepublic.org/environ...board-rejects-appeals-of-cmp-corridor-permits

    Hmmm still being held up but I think this bit is important because it is what Tucker left out

    https://www.mainepublic.org/environ...board-rejects-appeals-of-cmp-corridor-permits

    Which admittedly could mean anything
     
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    But but but it’s a forest and it gets rain!
     
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    forests. so no comment, that you believe in global whining, I mean warming, and yet your own party is cutting down forests, and hurting the Environment so much?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    forests, not rain forests. my bad. so no comment, that you believe in global whining, I mean warming, and yet your own party is cutting down forests, and hurting the Environment so much?

    I didn't think so.
     
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    speaking of turbines, that cost a lot of money, and takes up a lot of space in the country.
    What happens when one of those freeze up, do to cold weather? lmao
     
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    and in maine, yes, they already cut down miles of forests. so show me whatever you want, but unless tucker carlson on fox news showed a magical place with forest cut down elsewhere(which they would be held accountabel for lying if they had), then your little liberal statistics mean nothing to me.
     
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    I don't have a party.
    I go to other people's parties
    Tell you for free. Forests in France are owned either by the commune/ town or by private entreprise.
    They are farmed for either towns inhabitants' use ...heating etc, or for industrial timber which provides employment .
    When trees are cut down they are replace on a rotational basis.
    By no means does it get anywhere party political issues.
    And once again, please do not make gross assumptions about my views. They cut across your party delineations and even French political lines. Where I fall in opinion is varied and depends on the issue.
    Finally, merely cutting down trees is not the issue. The issue is whether they are being replace at an equal rate.
    Thank you.
     
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    A cow farted today. I think that all Democrats should build a shelter, because it's going to cause global warming, and the world will end by tomorrow.

    so we should all drive hybrid cars, and all live in fear, because the democrat politicians know exactly what is right for all of us.

    They want big government, and to tell everyone what to do. They want everyone to count on them.

    every decade the democrat politicians come up with another end of the World Global Warming Scheme. it comes, and goes, and nothing happens.

    You would think, that democrats would have learned by now? but no, more and more people start believing these kooks!
     
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    China has a vested interest in the climate as well.

    Don't be stupid.
     
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    Did you have your ear up to its ass? How do you know?
     
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    Wow, this thread is pure comedy.
     
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    Excuse me?
    II said they will do what they want their way. Not your way.
    What was that about telling others what to do and how to do it ?
     
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    This is what you’d get from listening to right wing misinformation sites instead of checking out what science is actually saying
     
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    Apparently it's a lot more fun getting drunk and shaking your fist at the sky.
     
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    You're right, of course but if the global warming nerds have anything, it's stamina. They just don't know when they've been beat.

    And they have already been beat despite all the pseudoscience and reams of "academic papers" they spew.

    See, the whole global warming thing in the US politically came to a head between 2007 and 2009. In 2007, in a fairly stunning cop-out of a Supreme Court "decision" (really more of a passing the buck declaration than a decision, thank you John Roberts) of EPA v. Massachusetts the court declared that EPA could regulate CO2 unless someone important (like the President) could tell them why they shouldn't.

    Now not to put too fine a point on it, but think about that for just a moment. The EPA was sued by the state of Massachusetts (and the usual others) because the state felt EPA should regulate CO2. The EPA did such a shitty job fighting (they've got a long history of picking up authority by letting activists walk all over it in court they couldn't even bring up the obvious fact that the Clean Air Act didn't allow it and needed to be amended by Congress if regulation were going to happen. After all for EPA, losing allows them more authority over everything).

    At that point all the discussion turns to how to enforce reductions in CO2. One way is simply to let EPA regulate it through their thoroughly inadequate structures or go to a Cap and Trade system. It's long been recognized that those are the only two options available to drive what is a simply impossible logical absurdity but at that time the favored thinking among the panic mongers was to avoid EPA which was rightfully seen as a nightmare waiting to happen and simply implement a C&T system.

    Now here's how a C&T system works. You start by cataloging all the CO2 emitters in an economy. That includes everything from local lemonade stands to aluminum smelting operations and everything in between. Then you create a system of credits or allowances. Essentially, you Mr. Homeowner get XXX credits to allow you to heat your house this year. OK, so far so good.

    Then, as the name implies, you Cap the total number of credits available (obviously starting at more than the economy needs to function) and then you create a market to Trade credits as needed.

    Then you start cutting the number of credits allowed and simply let everyone fight it out for survival. If you've got 10 factories in year one each emitting 10 credits worth (100 credits total) you cut the total back to 90 in year 2 and let the industry fight it out for who's going belly up.

    That system was actually proposed in 2009's Lieberman Warner bill that rapidly fell flat on its face once everyone got a whiff of the institutionalized cruelty inherent in such a system.

    And that was the closest the "climate change" geeks ever got to actually implementing the impossible dream.

    EPA's ability to regulate lurched along as a possibility never having enough teeth to really hurt, but still having enough teeth to waste a bunch of money on things like EV credits, until a month ago when WV v. EPA obliterated the EPA's ability to regulate CO2.

    As of right now, the only thing that can be done in this country is cry in your beer and whine about how the only real science is "peer reviewed" in academia and desperately hope that somehow the science of reducing CO2 magically overcomes physics and somehow works. Which it won't.

    So never let them get to you. They're just pissing into the wind.
     
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    You are right.
    It is too late.
    I will survive.
    Those after me may not.
    It will be the fault of those who think that it cant possibly happen.
    The three wise monkeys.
    Thanks guys.
     
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    Well, democrats are known for their conspiracy theories, and wasting other peoples money.

    The green new deal, is no different. It helps pay off all of the corrupt liberal Democrat Politicians debt, for massive overspending in their states.
     
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    There was a statistic on Fox News the other day. They need to continue to show it on a regular basis. It was something about How much China owned Energy Company wise. With things like Solar energy, and I forget it it showed, or was talking about how many millions of dollars Democrat Politicians are giving to it on a regular basis. and how China owns the top companies for several things when it comes to Global Warming type companies. hu. imagine that? Democrat Politicians constantly pushing global warming, and yet China is the biggest producer of emmissions, and the democrats and their politicians not caring about it? all whilst Democrat Politicians are getting money from China in deals, that sell out America, and also making China even more powerful, and more rich!

    It shouldn't be called the "Green New Deal", it should be called Traitors giving money to China deal, or something to that effect. lol.
     

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