The Holocaust: The Forbidden History.

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  1. Scott

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    Did they really have to put them in internment camps? I guess they were desperate and needed the laborers. When you're desperate, the end justifies the means I suppose.
     
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    The reason things stay the same is because people and those whom hey hold as their leaders stay in the same cyclical paradigms,here, I will use quotes from the Declaration of Independence to support my premise:
    I hope that my premise is taken well, if not, there is absolutely nothing that I can do about it.
    On note, the discussion or point is about the more things change, the more things stay the same. The reason things stay the same is because people are used to their customs and norms. When the customs and norms of the people are changed, by the people themselves, change will occur. I am not referring to Barack Hussein Obama when I speak of change because the only real and lasting change is in the individual to the extent of his or her deemed needed course trajectory.
    This is why I like intelligent discussions based on thinking that implements and complements real and lasting correction, minus the hyperbole and what I call "Triggernometry" Triggernometry: words and phrases used to illicit an emotional response. In my opinion, there is far too much of this that is planted into what should be serious discussions.
     
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  3. RiseAgainst

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    I read it's 200k
     
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    Denier sites don't count
     
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    Somewhere else I read it's 1.5 mil. That's closer to the real number because no more than that has been proven.

    Jews just brought up the six million number because Hitler put 6 million Germans to work and they want to distract away from THAT economic miracle.
     
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    Neo Nazi sites don't count
     
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    I don't read neonazi sites.

    The six million number is a complete LIE it's nowhere close to that.

    If you're making the claim that it's true then the burden is on you to prove it and it should be easy to prove.

    Side note: Zionist sites don't count. Legit sources only
     
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    The Holocaust (from the Greek ὁλόκαυστος holókaustos: hólos, "whole" and kaustós, "burnt"),[3] also referred to as the Shoah (Hebrew: השואה, HaShoah, "the catastrophe"), was a genocide in which some six million European Jews were killed by Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany, and the World War II collaborators with the Nazis

    Jump up ^ Snyder 2010, pp. 389, 413, chpt. Numbers and Terms.
    Further examples of this usage can be found in: Bauer 2002, Cesarani 2004, Dawidowicz 1981, Evans 2002, Gilbert 1986, Hilberg 1996, Longerich 2012, Phayer 2000, Zuccotti 1999.
     
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    nice try I alter Wikipedia pages to say ridiculous things all the time.

    Wikipedia isn't a source. PROVE the six million. Other people saying it happened doesn't prove it happened.
     
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    I didn't source Wikipedia. I gave you the source. Its right in front of you
     
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    Do you believe it when a NAZI says it?

    ^ Jump up to: a b Wilhelm Höttl testified at the Nuremberg trials and Eichmann's trial that at a meeting he had with Eichmann in Budapest in late August 1944, Eichmann said that "Approximately 4 million Jews had been killed in the various concentration camps, while an additional 2 million met death in other ways, the major part of which were shot by operational squads of the Security Police during the campaign against Russia" (Nuremberg Trial proceedings, Vol. 3). See also Kahn, David (2008). "The Secret History of the Author of the Secret Front". Archived from the original on 9 April 2009. Retrieved 30 October 2016.
     
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    Yes you did I copy and pasted the text and it took me directly to Wikipedia.
     
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    Well you should try clicking on the link. Are you new at this?
     
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    History is written by the Victors. We were lied to about WWII.

    Watch the Greatest story never told.
     
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    I will repeat, and use Ronald Reagan as my speaker:

     
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    That's right. History is written by the victors. So that means it can never be believed? LOL
     
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    Oh goodie. You found some videos. Well that will convince EVERYONE! LOL
     
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    Those translations are bogus. They're not even talking about the Holocaust.
     
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    It is obvious to me that something is incorrect about the "Official Story" of this incident. A glaring reality if the amount of political, economic, and advisory clout some have gained over the years. I compare this to the political capital that has been gained by the Big Six Civil Rights organizations. There is a book Titled Perfidy by Ben Hecht, published in 1961, the book caused me to pause. By comparison, the Big Six appear to be engaged in the same practice, use the mass for the gain and benefit of the few, and I am utterly disgusted by the entire lot of them. It does not matter where they are, a scoundrel is a scoundrel.
     
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    Near death experiencer Howard Storm asked why the holocaust had been allowed to occur.

     
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    You likely are far too biased to be objective. I challenge your thinking.

    What other genocides in the 20th Century cannot be be openly discussed and the facts questioned besides the Holocaust?

    Did the Holodomor "really happen?" How many Ukrainians were killed? If someone had evidence that only 400,000 died instead of 7 million, would that not be disrespectful and not be a show of hatred for all Ukrainians?
     
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    How about this one?
    https://williamblum.org/chapters/killing-hope/introduction
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    In 1993, I came across a review of a book about people who deny that the Nazi Holocaust actually occurred. I wrote to the author, a university professor, telling her that her book made me wonder whether she knew that an American holocaust had taken place, and that the denial of it put the denial of the Nazi one to shame. So broad and deep is the denial of the American holocaust, I said, that the denyers are not even aware that the claimers or their claim exist. Yet, a few million people have died in the American holocaust and many more millions have been condemned to lives of misery and torture as a result of US interventions extending from China and Greece in the 1940s to Afghanistan and Iraq in the 1990s. I enclosed a listing of these interventions, which is of course the subject of the present book.
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    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/american-imperialism.371897/
     
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    Your very overlong article was basically an apology for Communism.

    In many nations, it is a crime to question the Holocaust story in its present form from obviously biased Jewish sources.

    Do any of these same nations make it a crime to question any other genocide?
     
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    Its not illegal to question genocide.

    It is illegal in those nations who experienced the worst of the nazis to deny that the nazis didn't deliberately set out to exterminate the jews, the roms, the mentally ill, gays, and various groups of slavs - you know the untermensch.

    But why let nuance and actual legal definitions get in the way of yet another "jews have made it a crime to tell the truth" garbage that denialists apparently love to roll around it.
     

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