The Homophobic Double Standard

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by CausalityBreakdown, May 31, 2015.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    No, they aren't blinded by old traditions that the previous generation is troubled with. Sure, they have things to adjust to like every generation... but I'm sure that seeing LGBT as being worthy of equal rights/protections, is a no-brainer for them.
     
  2. CausalityBreakdown

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    Thankfully, a majority of people are better than you are. The average person doesn't exactly put their back into fixing the world, but at least they're concerned. You don't even have the decency to be concerned. So long as a majority is concerned and will give token support to a cause, that cause can succeed.
     
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    Believe what you want but, California Proposition 8 Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry Initiative Constitutional Amendment passed with 52.24% of the vote in Lib-land California. I'd like to see them put it on the national ballot in 2016.
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    No, that's not what I do.

    Even so, I don't "believe" that gay people and their advocates will continue FIGHT for EQUAL rights and protections... I KNOW they will.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    Please do the money the fork over to the Lawyers is good for the economy.
     
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    What percentage of the electorate voted in that election?
     
  7. Johnny-C

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    The process 'continues'. So be it.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    An open mind is not always a good thing. Open minds are destroying this country.
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    No Josh. Open minds are NOT doing what you say.

    Reasonable people realize that what is taken in must be processed. Now, if people just go along with ANYTHING (including old attitudes and traditions which SHOULD have been set aside long ago), sure... there will be problems.

    Above all, there is nothing wrong with learning more about things, especially when that alleviates fear and irrational thinking (such as the type often directed at homosexuality and homosexual people).
     
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    To me, learning more about things is figuring out how to configure your internet router so traffic moves faster and more secure or how to replace the headlight assemblies in your car. I don't know anyone who "fears" homosexuals because they just don't understand who and what they are. I do know who and what they are as well as what they do. I find it weird and creepy. All critters were born with genitals for the specific purpose of procreation. There in lies the difference between Hetero couples and Homosexual couples. Homosexual couples can NEVER procreate with each other. No amount of "learning" can change that.
     
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    So what?
     
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    So what?

    That's called making us a slave to and defining us according to our biology.

    People's lives are their own, they do not belong to you.

    Noe do they belong to your foul god.
     
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    What is your point?
     
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    We must all be a slave and be defined to our biology.

    I dedicate these songs to those who demand that:

    [video=youtube;5qozdIEy-TI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qozdIEy-TI[/video]

    [video=youtube;xnKhsTXoKCI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnKhsTXoKCI[/video]
     
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    Everything psychological is biological

    ...so there's really nothing else to define you or anyone else by, sorry. Just saying "I'm Superman! I'm Superman!" over and over won't make you able to fly - we are our biology and that's that.
     
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    What is biological about Satanism or Communism or any other thing that is an ism?
     
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    The brain is a biological organism - thoughts are the result of inner workings of the brain.

    If your idea is that a person can just be anything they want by "thinking hard enough" - as in hating that they have a penis and "thinking so hard" that they "become" the opposite sex, then that's where I'd say you're wrong.
     
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    Until that completely stray thought comes at you from out in the ether.

    Driving you incessantly insane, so insane that you want to do crazy and incognitive things like...


    END WORLD HUNGER!
    OR maybe...
    MARRY THAT PERFECT WOMAN THAT YOU'RE IN LOVE WITH!
    Or maybe a little bit of this, or a little bit of that,

    A little piece of Poland,
    A little piece of France,
    A little piece of Austria
    And Hungary, perchance!
     
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    Nonsense; males and females are attracted to each other based on certain biological (and mental) qualities present in each sex. For example, men like breasts because it's a sign of female youth and fertility. This is simply the way our natures are.

    And, no, acting on homosexuality is indeed detrimental to society.

    No, it is simply unacceptable to encourage sexual orientation abnormalities. You don't want to encourage pedophilia, now do you?

    Wouldn't you prefer your heartbeat to be normal?
     
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    You'll need to provide some evidence that:

    1. You can "make" person be gay by 'encouraging it' and:

    2. Some reliable studies that allowing gay sex or gay marriage harms society in any way measurable enough to warrant government intervention

    Since the above don't exist, and seeing as gays are a tiny 3-5% or so of the population, I think the "gay" issue needs to die and stop muddying the political waters any further - disproportionate obsession with homosexuality isn't normal.

    Not to mention as a Muslim, there are plenty of Americans would could make plenty of plausible gripes about your religion
     
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    I never argued that.

    There is no study out there that shows how current societal trends effect the moral fabric of society.

    It's not an obsession, but a important issue for both parties involved.

    Their gripes will be duly refuted.
     
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    Worst case scenario I can see from the gay marriage fallout is incest marriage being declared a constitutional right.

    Even then however the number of people who'd start "committing incest" just because it's legal (let alone doing so openly or bringing children into it) would still be so insignificant that it wouldn't have any notable affect on children or society in the long haul. Just because sodomy laws were overturned didn't make straight people "want to start having gay sex".

    I agree that the pedophilia/bestiality arguments don't work here since consent laws come into place.

    The polygamy argument is more complicated, since we'd have to factor in whether or not things such as a limit on partners exist - even then polyamory is already legal with or without legal recognition (Mormon polygamists for example), not to mention it's been around for centuries.

    The real motivator behind the debate is an "I don't like it factor", with plenty of exaggerated theories about residual harm it will cause.

    So it just begs the question. But I think it's common sense that just because gay sex or marriage is legal, that straight people are not going to start "becoming" gay, let alone in large numbers.

    Didn't Muhammed marry a very young girl?
     
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    Mohammed married Aisha when she was nine years old.
     
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    According to Sunni scriptural Hadith sources, Aisha was six or seven years old when she was married to Muhammad and nine when the marriage was consummated

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha
     
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    So what? You want me to finance with my tax dollars a perversion. So yea I get a say in it.
     

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