http://www.facebook.com/ramzi.jaber1 No intention and never has been of a Two State solution and a Free Independent Palestine. It's all been decades of lies to allow European Jews to steal land and homes from the real owners the Palestinians. When they tell you 2 state solution You know they are lying
Do you think israeli's want to rule you... trust me they don't. They want to be seperated from arabs. But.. in a normal agreement the two sides have to Compromise ... you arabs do not want that. you want it all. They withdrew from Gaza and got a gift - Kassam rockets. You people are full of hate. The former israeli p.m gave Araffat the all package.. He refused. I hope for the israelis that they will continue stamping your I.D as a Jordanian citizen. I hope for you that you bought property in Jordan for the incoming future.
Rubbish - like all nazis the zionists want to murder all who stand in their racist way. As you very well know.
Ramzi Jaber... a lot of information about you in Google. Born in Jerusalem, educated at McGill University in Montreal, with work experience in Paris and the Gulf, Ramzi Jaber was the picture of successful Palestinian youth living abroad. But eight months ago he decided to put his talents to use at home, leaving his job as a structural engineer in Dubai to return to his hometown of Ramallah to organize TEDxRamallah, a local version of the popular worldwide lecture-based conference series. Since the event is "the first TEDx happening under occupation," Jaber plans to hold the conference portion of the event in three physical locations: Bethlehem, Beirut, and Amman, in order to work around the travel restrictions faced by Palestinians.
For now the major killing is doen by arabs. Look what is going on in Syria !! Fanatic murderers kill thousands children and Civilians.
The Nazis 'final solution' was exile, to relocate any Jewish peoples who did not leave of their own accord, by the time War broke out the World had not come to an agreement of where that Jewish Land should be, none favored Israel. So The Reich was moving them East. Zionists called Holocaust, a wonderful propaganda which served all the victors well. The Zionists got their chosen Land Israel and the Victors could hide all their atrocious sins as Nazi atrocities. I am not arguing the Holocaust Lie again but I think we should stop using it as a comparison, horrible as the whole exile and the camps were, it was not an annihilation, it was not genocide. Hitler also never said The Master Race he said The Elite Corp. Israel has people herded into a small space and is slowly Bulldozing them into the soil ..............They, the Israelis have made business deals with Gas companies for Gas which is in Palestinian waters, so no way is it their intent to allow Palestine any rights ever at all and the Corperates understand and are complicit in this. We know and so do many ordinary Israelis ..........are we helpless to help ? How can we help ?
The UN partition divided the land between the two peoples living there. One people accepted the compromise, the other did not and started multiple wars, intifadas, terror campaigns. Israel returned Gaza and offered pretty much the rest of the West Bank (with some land swaps) to Arafat in exchange for peace. No takers on the Palestinian side, Arafat "counter-offered" with Intifada and a wave of terror.
Aye 'tis funny the way that people have been condtioned to 'ask' this question, in a given way - 'Do YOU deny the holocost?'. There is a real sense of the question being both loaded, and arrogant, actually. Why must we make the assumption that we are speaking about their Jewish story? Even on a subconcious level, what they are doing when they ask it that way, is elevating Jewish suffering as so great, and so much more valuable, as to relegate all other mass suffering, death, genocide, and so on, to a footnote, at best. Quite a few mentioned on here yesterday that the entire Bolshevik movement, and the Communist movement, were primarily Jewish, it was in the region of 75-80% of their top people that were Jews. I even wrote out the comprehensive list, along with their real names, when need be, rather than names they had assumed. It must be remembered, that the Jewish population of Russia at that time, was around 1.5%. And yet, among the main faces of Bolshevikism and Communism, we are looking at 75% representation. Sounds like Congress. We can then all see from there, that they were responsible for concentration camps, torture, and murder, of an estimated 60million people, most of whom were Russian Christians. Yet, this is all dowplayed, and most certainly it is not encouraged to say that the whole concept, from the get go, was a Jewish concept. Why? Because if people were taught this, it would make their holocaust story, sound like nothing by comparison. That is why. In reality, it is THEY that American Christians should be remembering every year, not forgetting them, while they shed crocodile tears over (yet again), 'Jewish suffering'. Just as they should be remembering the many Lebanese Christians and Palestinian Christians, that Jews there have killed. Note how it is fine to say that most of the German high command were German, and perhaps even RC, but it is not okay to state what I have, about Communism and the Bolsheviks. Note that the the alleged horrors of the former are hammered into your brain, while those of the latter are also as good as airbrushed. Note that in the Katalyn Forest Massacre, it was the 'evil Nazis' that found a mass grave full of human remains. It was they who reported it! And it got pinned on them! What else was pinned on them, that was done by another, or not at all? That example only finally came to light in 1990, when it was admitted that the Communist NKVD (mostly all under Jewish command) had actually done it. All that time history had recorded it as the 'Nazis'. And all of that time, it was the mainly Jewish NKVD. You had the almost Benny Hill image of 'Simon Weistenthal' running around the World, like Crocodile Dundee, looking for 90yr old 'Nazi's', while at the same time, when the Jewish Communist torturer, Solomon Morell was wanted by Poland, for being a Jewish commander, of a Jew run concentration camp, into which non Jewish women and children were butchered, he ran to Israel. Israel have refused Polands request to extradite this MONSTER, THREE times, even though Polish authorities say they have 150 witnesses, and other concrete evidence. Israel have not only refused, they have accused Poland of 'being anti semitic' by asking.. I find it amusing when you get asked the question in such a way, it sort of feels like going back 700yrs, and having a toothless mob cry 'Do YOU deny god'.
The thief offered to return 92% of the stolen goods. Logically the victim said -- horse droppings - return it all. And the Sheriff of Washington accused the victim of being unreasonable. And so does Borat. If I were the victim, I too would tell them both to (*)(*)(*)k-off.
I am not too sure those living in Palestine were given a referendum on this! However it was rejected by their delegation and hence it was back to the drawing board. Israel unilaterally declared herself as a state. Yes, she accepted the plan but only so that 66 years or so later on people like yourself could still justify it. It was the starter but Israel always intended on going for more and had been "encouraging people to leave" before any armies came in. She withdrew her settlers from Gaza and left them walled in. I'll let Uri Avnery expel this myth They were left eventually with an offer of around 17.6% of the original Palestine, pretty much as bantustans with Israel still in control! As Avnery says 'No Nation in the world would accept this as a peacetime solution' Now at Taba, Barak presented much better conditions and the Palestinians accepted this as suitable for negotiations. Hear that? The Palestinians accepted the Taba plans which included new maps and no Israeli control. Unfortunately for the Palestinians, Barak himself was doomed as PM and with him any hope of a Palestinian State. Right hope that one is sorted now. Avnery's links with pictures and story below Ok it doesn't link direct. You will need to go to that link and look for downloads. You will find it there. http://www.avnery-news.co.il/english/index.html
Less than 6 months later it violated just about every recommendation made in that UN Resolution. And Borat claims that the violators occupy the high ground!!! Such is the false-logic of the Zionist Apologist Myths. -------------------------------------------------- The other party voted against the resolution because it was illegal --- in that it broke Article 26 of the Mandate for Palestine which was international law at the time. And Borat says that THEY are the guilty parties!! Once again the victims are cast as the guilty. But I am here to expose those Myths, and so are many others, and we make inroads every day..
This is true enough. Right wing Israelis want the land, but not the people. The pbolem of course is that the people live there and have rights to live their as it is the home of their birth. The PA fully endorses and supports a two state solution based on 1967 borders, the same type of borders that the international community generally recognizes. The Gaza Pullout wasn't an attempt at peace, it was unilateral and was directly admitted by Sharon's government to be a method of stalling the peace process, not advancing it. One of the chief initiators of the plan Dov Weisglass came out and said this about it: "The significance of the plan is the freezing of the peace process,And when you freeze that process, you prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state, and you prevent a discussion on the refugees, the borders and Jerusalem. Effectively, this whole package called the Palestinian state, with all that it entails, has been removed indefinitely from our agenda. And all this with authority and permission. All with a presidential blessing and the ratification of both houses of Congress." It is dishonest to assert that the Gaza Pullout was an attempt at peace. No he didn't. In fact the package didn't even cover most of the major grievances, such as the water crisis, the status of refugees, nor the status of Jerusalem. That's the main reason why the US developed to Road Map Plan, a plan that Israel never even remotely tried to follow.
There is actually fairly good evidence for much of what MGB says. Palestineans have pursued a policy of hatred toward Israel and have carried out pretty useless terrorist acts like the firing of Kassam rockets. And it's certainly true that the Israelis want a separate state - they just won't say what the borders of that state are and confirm Palestineans living inside those borders will be granted basic human rights, such as being allowed to own their own land and property. Where MGB really starts to err is in saying that Arafat was solely to blame for the failure to achieve peace in the aftermath of the Oslo Accords. The "former Israeli P.M." was Rabin and he was assassinated by an Israeli extremist and his replacement was Netanyahu who proceeded to sabotage the Accords every bit as enthusiastically as Arafat. The real question has never been whether the Israelis wanted a separate state; it was whether there was any room in their vision for the Palestineans in the land described as Israel/Palestine. From ownership of under 1% of the land prior to the Six-Day War in 1967 on the West Bank and Arab parts of Jerusalem, Israel now owns almost 42% of the West Bank in public and private ownership and by illegal (by Israeli law) occupation. This is slow motion conquest and displacement and no people on earth could see this happen to them and react well. The Palestinean reactions may have been close to being the worst possible choices they could have made, but the starting motivation is quite understandable. Referring to a West Bank Palestinean as a Jordanian when Israeli's peace treaty with Jordan specifically rejects that legal interpretation is a dead giveaway of MGB's agenda.
The load em into boxcars and transfer the lot to the east strategy, with a minor stop over in Treblinka, Sobibor, or Belzec. right. Aryans were the elite corp. Mein Kampf was ghost written by some jew. Well, I suppose the first thing is to at least get your facts right and stop trying to pawn off nazi apologist nonsense. For all the help the palestnians have gotten and are still getting, it doesn't seem as though its getting them very far other than starving to death. Hasn't helped with the brutiality or humiliation or corruption, now has it? Maybe what really needs to change is attitudes on both sides and from my experience, that has to come from within.
Yes, they discovered that they can do many more things via Talmo-Islamic fanatics than they can do under their own colors, just like they have accomplished much under Yankee colors. .
I know, I don't answer unless they have a serious question. I am tired of Trolls. The Jewish Bund under 'socialism' and its' arguments about their place in the 'socialist' society had its problems too Jack as did so many ideals, so many were brutalized in those terrible times. It didn't all ways go the Bunds way nor most certianly the ordinary Jews way. The Jewish involvement and influence in the revolution and the horrors which followed is quite complex as are the American economic influences, from Prez down, which are now completely swept under the carpet. I was merely saying that for those of us who know that there was no purposeful, premeditated, organized, systematic genocide of anyone by the Germans in WWII we should stop using it as a comparison to anything One can understand the Zionists wish for a Jewish Home Land, it isn't that, it is the way it was manipulated out of the World, who knew Israel to be a folly, And who took the Lead and how the country it's self is run and again by whom, your Bolsheviks ? And their genocide which stands alone to be judged, it should not be compared with any other.........but Judged alone. For it stands alone, in it's arrogance. .
Not this again. Instead of accepting such garbage on its face hatred value, maybe a little investigation and education might make you reconsider posting such crap. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism Jewish Bolshevism or Judeo-Bolshevism is the conspiracy theory that Jews have been the driving force behind Communist movements, or more specifically Soviet Bolshevism.[1] The expression has been used as a catchword for the assertion that Communism is a Jewish conspiracy, and it has often coincided with overtly aggressive nationalistic tendencies in the 20th century and 21st century. In Poland, Judeo-Bolshevism was known as Żydokomuna and was used as an antisemitic stereotype.[2] The expression was the title of a pamphlet, The Jewish Bolshevism, and became current after the 1917 October Revolution in Russia, featuring prominently in the propaganda of the anti-communist "White" forces during the Russian Civil War. It is okay to say that about the German high comand because its true. What you say about jews and bolsheviks is not. doyou see the difference? Is there a point to that or are you merely restating that nazis are evil? I wasn't aware that Dzerzhinsky was a jew. From what I have read, there were less than 1000 jews in an organization of 100,000 members. Were all of these jews leaders? Ol simon and his gang managed to nab a few of those scumbags and he started in 1947 hunting these miserable excuses for human beings so a lot of them weren't even remotely 90 years old. If you are using Morell as an example that barbaric torture and murder are not the sole domain of any one ethnicity, nationality or religion then I think he's a good one. If you are using Morell as some sort of equivalency between jews and nazis, then the sheer magnitude of the discrepancy of number breadth and scope, renders that comparison useless. I guess you don't actually understand how law works. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Archive/Communiques/1995/EXTRADITION%20IN%20ISRAEL (you'll quickly find out why his lawyer called the motivation for extradition antisemitism, and why they claimed the statute of limitations ran out) Meanwhile, I have it on good authority that one of the Polish prosecutors attempting to prosecute a 75 year old man for "communist crimes against the people" was named Benny Pagorek.........
And it is the whole thing of, what is a Jew, isn't it ? One might as well say what is a Christian ? Apart from the fact that we are all individuals. It depends where people come from doesn't it ?
You mean... after the Jews accepted the resolution and the Arabs tried real hard and failed to drive them into the sea and still refused to abide by the resolution and still harbored the urge to wipe Israel off the map, the Jews did not feel obligated to make unilateral concessions and sacrifices? Duh! The Islamofascist logic of your accusation shines right through. LOL
LOL, this is patently absurd, since when UN resolutions require referendum? Do anti-Israel UN resolutions require referendum among Israeli citizens as well? And the resolution was NOT back to the drawing board...It passed by required number of votes and you either deliberately lie or have no idea what you are talking about.
This is a very dangerous millenia, for mankind. Not sure we are going to make it all the way through, and even if so, I truly think even the Western World is going to be totalitarian to it's own people, they are in some cases already, but I think we are going to head to a point in which the mask will come off entirely, and we are going to see a repeat of some of the horrors of the past. I do not see why people believe it cannot happen to them, people they know, and in their country. Why not? We can see in all manner of ways how controlling and invasive, and obsessed with oppressive legislation they are, the stage is being set imo, and has been getting set, for some time. May be that a civil war is ignited in the US. May be that this spreads across Europe. May be that this is used as the excuse to bring in 'emergency measures', which would include an extension of some of the horrific laws that have already passed into the statue. If they can render some people, why not a lot? If they can get away with no trials and secret evidence, why not get away with it, on a larger scale, esp if they can ignite a spark, by way of mass social unrest. It would not be hard to provoke it. You could do it using a number of methods. In the US you could attack their gun ownership laws. Then you could devalue the dollar as well, and you could slash wages. That is a pretty potent mix, just there. That would surely set the tone for mass civil unrest, right? If not enough, I am sure they could add on to it. You already have the fake media, to rewrite the stories, and make the demonstrators sound like 'domestic terrorists'. You could even bring in some shills, hired killers, and have them be pivotal to the unrest. All sorts of ways you can do it, and as soon as enough of the people reacted, in enough states, then the rest is easy. Any rights and freedoms taken away, will not be restored. This could be, as well as what I mentioned, mandatory curfews, ID cards, etc. Similar unrest in Europe, esp those nations that fall under the umbrella of the EU, could easily have 'emergency measures' placed on them too. Our Gov's will say they are helpless, as the decision has been made by the Communist EU in Brussels. It would also be their chance to do a lockdown on the internet as well, getting rid of all those pesky news sites, web sites etc, that have brought their global crimes too much attention. You must know that there are minds out there who would desire such a dystopia, for it would be THEIR 'utopia', and you must see, do you not, that it would not be too hard to create the condtions in which to impose this, right? The problem for mankind, many Jews too ironically, for at least 200yrs, is that we have all been lashing out at the tentacles of the octopus, when no one has ever thought to destroy the brain. I see it all the way through the last two centuries, and in lashing out at the symptoms and tentacles, we are on a mission of repeat and fail. Everyone. Non Jews. Christians, Muslims, even many Jews, we are all missing the brain. And that is a great pity. It would be much better to target the brain, rather than the tentacles. The latter simply results in the deaths of tens of milions more people, but if someone were to take out the brain, then the sacrifice could be measured in the few hundred. Esp the males of the particular cabal that I refer to, since the females do not get included in the business and politics. For 200+ yrs, everyone that has been in the spotlight, have merely been players. Hitler, Stalin, Communism, National Socialism, Zionism, Israel, IPAC, capitalism, these are not all seperate things. They are products, to to speak. There are no Jews, Muslims, or gentiles, anywhere, that need to fight massive wars, and lose many many more of their own, instead of putting the spotlight on that, the spotlight needs to be placed on those who, through history, have been in the shadows, backing both sides in wars they created the condtions for, to create industries that they will be secret (or not so), shareholders in. A small number of families, numbering between 20-200, in the WORLD, they are the true creators of all of this, they have been doing this over and over, and no one has been spared, Jews have died, Americans, British, Germans, Arabs, and it will go on, until they are stopped. Maybe if half a dozen Mossad, SAS, and CIA wished to defect, and make a name for themselves in history, as the men who took down the brains, and made the world a better place for all, Jews included..
Stolen or won in a war they did not start? There is a world of difference between the two (in the real world, not your imaginary utopian one). And guess what, 92% was supplemented by 8% land swap.. and the offer required a counter-offer if it was not enough. That's how the negotiations are conducted in the real world (not your imaginary utopian one). And the counter-offer did arrive...in the form of intifada, suicide bombers and explosions in malls and restaurants.
