The Muslims will stop trying to kill us when ______

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  1. FreedomSeeker

    FreedomSeeker Well-Known Member

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    So you think that Muslims are prone to terrorism, it appears?
     
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    If their faith says to kill gays, WHY THE HELL would ethical people NOT attack those beliefs!?

    You appear to be like a person who, in 1938, would DARE NOT even think about condemning the Nazi belief! We are AT WAR with those that are using the Islamic texts as a guidebook to impose its Sharia Law on us.
     
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    This guy should have done it my way:
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no, but obsessively attacking and flamebaiting Muslims can lead to more extremism and possibly even terrorism.

    maybe thats your goal.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that doesn't justify your obsessive name-calling against Muslims.

    its nothing but arrogant, juvenile flamebait and trolling.

    maybe you want them to become more extreme and defensive?
     
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    Actually Jesus said you shouldn't judge others, that is for God to do. He also said that even the most horrible of people may repent, be forgiven and enter heaven, and The Bible insinuates that this may not even need happen until after death.
    Condemning other people from your own limited prespective is no better than the fire n brimstone christians who say you go to hell for atheism.
     
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    its also juvenile, cowardly flamebait and trolling
     
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    No, it will lead to less Islamic zeal, more apostasy - and less approval of Islam by non-Muslims such as yourself as well. You DEFEND Muslims even though they can't condemn Q4:34 which instructs to BEAT wives - so you are part of the problem as well - you can't condemn people who approve of texts that instruct to beat wives.
    http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-wife-beating-koran-4-34.htm
     
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    Yes, OF COURSE self-proclaimed prophet/con-men say that because they want you to SUBMIT your mind to them and their invisible friend in the sky so that they can control you. See, access to heaven/hell is largely determined by you committing a THOUGHT-CRIME (not believing in "Jesus"), so of course they want to control your mind! Religions are mind-control.
     
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    What Christian texts say to kill gays?

    Not even the old testament (which was overruled as a source for actionary doctrine by Jesus, btw) commands that.

    Your parralels of violence between Islam and Christian doctrine are woefully underinformed.
     
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    "Cowardly"?.....you seem to think that, say, a person like me is a "coward" compared to someone who invades a Muslims country and bombs them from 10,000' feet because he is too stupid to know how to take on Islam ideologically....killing innocent children like these this very month. We can't KILL our way out of this war - we have to address the underlying driver of religious violence - FAITH - yes, that will mean not having faith in the messiah of Islam as well (Jesus - "Isa" in Islam), but that's the price we'll have to pay.
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    You're not serious, are you!?
     
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    I'm thinking there's no way to eliminate sociopathic *******s from any group.
     
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    I dont think (any) religion that responds to namecalling with violence (as you suggest with it causing increased extremism) is anything to respect.
     
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    What's "LIMITED" is the Christian belief that to get into heaven and avoid "hell" that you are "limited" to having to win the theological lottery by just happening to pick the one unproven, illogical, barbaric "god" out of the thousands on offer!
     
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    So what is YOUR reply - when will the Muslims stop trying to kill us, Questerr?
    Your answer will likely indirectly blame US INFIDELS for Islamic terrorism - but I've been wrong before. Blaming the victim - not usually a good thing to do.
     
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    I am.

    Show me where Jesus says to kill gays (or anyone).
     
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    "The Muslims" aren't trying to kill us. If "The Muslims" were there'd be hundreds of thousands of terrorist attacks a day.
     
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    Great post - yes, "don't call them out for their extremism or they might kill us more!!!", is what my critics seem to be saying.
     
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    Thats a simplistic interpretation pushed by the 501c3 controlled 'christian' establishment. Its not necessarily 'what The Bible says.'

    And I agree that their version is just as limited as yours.
     
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    This lists many many many gay-hating verses: http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gay/long.htm

    If a Modern Secular Humanist was in "Jesus" shoes, we'd of course (because we are far more compassionate than that zombie is) have come down in the last 2000 years and said "look, we screwed up, we were wrong, instead of harm to gays like the Bible say, we now have come to the conclusion that we should LOVE GAYS EQUALLY - again, we're sorry for teaching hatred all those years, please forgive us - we're all-knowing but we're also real dicks at times."
     
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    Hehe, you should be a comedian.
    Yes, "what the Bible says" is the whole issue.
     
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    Wait.
     
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    So you are confirming "The Muslims" aren't trying to kill us and thus your own OP is based on a fantasy rather than reality?

    Isn't that "delusional"? Are you mentally ill like a theist?
     
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    You are wrong:

    The laws are an everlasting covenant, for a thousand generations, always and forever.Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations. Deuteronomy 7:9

    Therefore thou shalt love the LORD thy God, and keep his charge, and his statutes, and his judgments, and his commandments, alway.Deuteronomy 11:1

    Be ye mindful always of his covenant; the word which he commanded to a thousand generations ... an everlasting covenant. 1 Chronicles 16:15

    Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth. Concerning thy testimonies, I have known of old that thou hast founded them for ever. Psalm 119:151-2

    Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalm 119:160

    God will curse you if you don't obey his commandments.Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God. Deuteronomy 11:26-28Keeping the commandments is the whole duty of every human.Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. Ecclesiastes 12:13Remember (and obey) the law of Moses.Remember ye the law of Moses. Malachi 4:4Jesus instructed his followers to obey all of the commandments.Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall nowise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:18-19
    It is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail. Luke 16:17

    One came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him ... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Luke 19:16-17

    And even Paul seemed to agree with Jesus on this (sometimes).The doers of the law shall be justified. Romans 2:13
    Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Romans 3:31
     

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