The Nazi Party was not Right-Wing

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  1. Windigo

    Windigo Banned

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    You destroy your thesis and every argument you have made so far right there.

    If you accept that it is okay for Lenin to pragmatically modify Marxism and still be a leftwing socialist you must accept that it is okay gor anyone to pragmatically modify Marxism and still be a leftwing socialist. That includes hitler and fascists.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its interesting how Conservatives constantly start threads like this all over the internet, in many internet forums.

    Its like they are compensating for something, by constantly trying to reinforce this failed idea that the Nazis were Left-wing.
     
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    nothing. It's a figure of speech. Not indicating the opposite of indecent. Maybe fulfilling, satisfying, productive, informative, educational, mutually beneficial, friendly, respectful, or a combination of all the above can substitute.
     
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    I have no idea what professors you're talking about. I'm talking about actual legitimate historians with real credibility.....that doesn't include liars like Jonah Goldberg or nitwits like Glen Beck.
     
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    they were authoritarian, just like socialists. Are socialists romans ?

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    they share the authoritarian similarities that matter, which makes them more alike than different.
     
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    The Nazis were a reactionary conservative party that was against this newfangled idea of democracy. Only in the right wing of the USA would that be called a leftist ideology.
     
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    oh, so Conservatives have no authoritarian beliefs?

    how about banning marijuana?

    how about banning ALL drugs besides tobacco and alcohol?

    how about wanting to ban gay marriage and allow discrimination against gays

    how about wanting to ban or spy on Muslims?

    how about wanting to ban abortion and doctor-assisted suicide for the terminally ill?

    how about wanting to limit & restrict voting rights?

    how about wanting to crack down on immigrants?

    these are all Right-wing goals in the USA.
     
  8. Windigo

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    Oh what bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You bring up the US price controls put in place by Nixon but fail to mention that it was Nixon. Now you turn around and say 'you brought up Nixon'. Such pathetic debate tactics are driving this board into the ground. You should be ashamed if making such arguments.
     
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    So Eisenhower was a socialist?
     
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    Nixon imposed price controls?

    damn that Socialist!!!!!

    :)
     
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    you said that, not me.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    American Conservativism includes many Authoritarian ideas.

    They do NOT own the concepts of Libertarianism.
     
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    And in all those years of study you cannot make one reasonable argument to support your assertion and are forced to hang your hat on on a massive appeal to authority.

    The fact that you cannot make a reasonable argument and have to reduce to logical fallacies is prima facia evidence that you are arguing a false premise.

    In other words anyone who disagrees with your false premise. 'Everyone who agrees witb me is legitimate everyone who disagrees is a revisionist.'

    How fascist of you.
     
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    I suppose Churchill was a socialist too, what with the UK during WW2 having rationing and the like? The market should have just taken care of that!
     
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    American Conservatives want to ban abortion, ban same-sex marriage, ban assisted suicide for the terminally-ill, ban marijuana, make voting and voter-registration harder...

    such Authoritarians!!
     
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    Can you find an example of a nation involved in WWII that did not use wage and price controls? Or did not ration goods and services to make sure that the military had the resources necessary to fight the war? It is delusional to believe that a nation involved in a world wide all out total war could depend on the free market to allocate resources efficiently and properly to sustain the war effort.
     
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    GWB was a socialist and left wing. All republicans are socialists and left wing.

    Remember, you're a socialist and a left winger on one issue only, did you redistribute any wealth.
     
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    ok. That'll work.

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    ok. That'll work.
     
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    Strawman argument. We are talking about what the Nazis did in peace time.

    Once again resorting to logical fallacies is prima facia evidence that yoy are arguing a galae premise.
     
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    no, they certainly do not.
     
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    The Nazis were never at peace. They were at war with International Jewry from day one as they put it.
     
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    Reduction to absurdity, another logical fallacy. Further evidence that you are arguing a false premise.
     
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    It's funny how using their own argument against them is suddenly a logical fallacy instead of pointing out the logical fallacy in theirs.
     
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    False attribution falacy and reduction to absurdity so absurd that even you know its ridiculous. Even further evidence that you are arguing a false premise.
     
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    Fine, I'll add to it.

    The Republicans are socialists and left wing because they redistribute wealth and execute people. As we all know from this thread, if you kill your own population you're a socialist left winger.

    Both of those things have been declared as socialist left wing by multiple so called right wingers in this very thread. Tell them to change their definition if you don't want it thrown back.
     
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