The New American Federalist Movement: Uniting Libertarianism and Socialism!

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  1. jaktober

    jaktober Member

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    The following is the Federalist Platform that finds a balance between progressive-socialism and libertarianism.

    http://freeindependentsun.com/republic/charter-12-the-american-federalist-platform/

    The platform calls for ending the wars overseas, ending the war on drugs, ending the death penalty, ending the personal income tax in favor of a flat corporate tax with no deductions, reduces/consolidates the executive branch to 5 departments (State, Justice, Defense, Interior and Treasury) and creates a new "Department of Welfare" to take care of all welfare purposes. It calls for opening interstate insurance purchasing, allowing doctors to compete in price AND providing a single-payer public-option (rather than a public mandate).

    The following is an article on how to accomplish this without all having to join the same group or have to work on aspects of this we don't agree on:

    http://freeindependentsun.com/natural_law/friends-of-freedom-and-trans-partisan-theory-ron-paul-2012-rnc-peace-and-freedom-democrats-rand-paul-2016-election-third-parties-and-a-federalist-government-by-2020/

    This all ties into my "2012 Enlightenment Theory" articles: http://freeindependentsun.com/zen/2012-enlightenment-theory-appendix/

    I also have this topic up on the Occupy forum: http://occupywallst.org/forum/how-we-can-defeat-corporate-imperialism-together/

    Please give me feedback! Thank you! May the Force be with You!
     
  2. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Libertarianism is all about Freedom, Respect for the Individual, Self-Reliance, Minimal Government, Racial/Gender Blindness and Innovation.



    Socialism is all about Centralized Control, Collectivism, Dependence, Big Government, Racial/Gender Pandering, and Luddite Closed Mindedness.




    No, these two philosophies are polar opposites. You'll never convince the Libertarians to support Socialism.
     
  3. jaktober

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    Well, I take it you are a Libertarian. I just worked on the Ron Paul campaign for a year on the road (from California, went to Colorado, Iowa, South Carolina, Florida, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania and Washington D.C.).

    If you take a look at the actual platform and not the terms (sorry, I use the terms, but if you read further...) you'll see that I'm not asking Libertarians to support Socialism, in fact, I'm doing quite the opposite. I'm saying to work with "socialists" or "progressives" or "the left" on issues of agreement, and finding some compromises to issues such as health-care and social security (which Ron Paul himself said he was willing to protect and even keep if we can find the funds while cutting the wars and income tax and making the programs voluntary).

    I'm a Green, but I supported/support Ron Paul for President (in fact just posted a topic on how he can still win over at Daily Paul that is getting some traction: http://www.dailypaul.com/245719/the-3-things-needed-for-ron-paul-to-get-nominated ). As having worked with both camps I know that most INDIVIDUALS that attend these various party/group meetings are actually open to the majority of positions I take in my platform.

    I got libertarian-Republicans in the south that I worked with to understand the difference between universal health-care/public mandate and a single-payer public-option.

    As well, under "Federalism" each state can go as they may. The point is that a Green state and Libertarian state should recognize that if they agree nationally on a Federalist platform that they are both more empowered at the state and local level to manage their governments as they please, then they are if they remain divided and allow the "establishment" to remain in power.
     
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    ...don't forget to skip around a friggin' Maypole while you are at it!
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    I like your ideas. I don't know if they'll ever become a reality, but I'd vote for them.
     
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    Sounds like a good deal to me! Thanks for checking them out!
     
  7. jaktober

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    I think I just might!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole

    Had no idea about these. My family is German. Very cool. Thanks!
     

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